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Re: Algebra Questions

by Paul Sperry <plsperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 22, 2008 at 05:42 AM

In article <KeUYj.44844$iD4.8530@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Jack <jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> 
> >> R(n.n') = |t(n,m)| - |t(n',m)|, as long as it implies that there are
> >> individual members, r, of R(n,n').
> >
> > It won't do that but R(n,n') = t(n,m) - t(n',m) will with the "new"
> > definition of t(n,m).
> 
> Surely t(n,m) - t(n',m), under the new definition, will require that
t(n,m) 
> contains all (or some of?) the same prime factors as t(n',m)? I don't
want 
> there to be any such stipulation.

No, just the opposite. It is the factors of n which are _not_ factors
of n'.

>   How would I ensure that there are there are individual members, r, of 
> R(n,n'), for the case where I am not using prime factors to determine
the 
> distribution of positive entries?

see part 2

> >> Do the r and s here refer to the members r of R(n,n') and s of
S(n,n')? 
> >> If
> >> not, as I strongly suspect, then surely I've got trouble?
> >
> > No, they just refer respectively to the number of rows and columns of
M.
> 
> But am I OK using r and s for both those purposes in a single paper?

Sure it is done all the time.

> >> But if x=0 and y =10, there are surely 11 columns in the matrix.? I
want
> >> zero to be an index value.
> >
> > But for a _matrix_ it is not.
> 
> Some how I've got to get zero incor****ated in such a way....
> 
> >> {1,1}, {1,1},{1,1,1,1},{1,1} respectively. Cardinalities 2, 2, 4, 2
> >> respectively.
> >
> > Oh dear, that's what I was afraid of. The sets {1,1} and {1,1,1,1} are
> > all the same and are all equal to {1}. Just because you mention "1"
> > twice doesn't mean {1,1} has two elements.
> 
> This throws me considerably. Oh, heck.
> 
> 
> > I've started a new thread "Algebra Questions (part 2)" in which I
> > propose a new starting point for you which I hope will help with your
> > notational difficulties. At least it introduces some terminology which
> > may be useful.

Let's kill off this thread.

-- 
Paul Sperry
Columbia, SC (USA)
 




 42 Posts in Topic:
Algebra Questions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-03 13:27:14 
Re: Algebra Questions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-04 02:48:30 
Re: Algebra Questions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-04 12:42:47 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-04 19:09:02 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-05 00:51:40 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-05 04:54:53 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-05 13:28:54 
Re: Algebra Questions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-06 18:57:27 
Re: Algebra Questions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-05-06 15:04:40 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-07 12:25:21 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-09 03:40:13 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-09 13:11:46 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-11 06:30:54 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-12 13:07:31 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-13 07:04:06 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-13 12:06:22 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-13 12:44:21 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-13 13:13:01 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-14 03:53:19 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-14 11:58:30 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-15 04:57:21 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-15 11:52:08 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-16 04:29:38 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-16 12:09:42 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-16 12:14:15 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-17 05:08:00 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-17 15:57:33 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-18 06:47:01 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-18 11:02:15 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-19 06:26:51 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-19 14:33:14 
Re: Algebra Questions (correction)
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-19 14:41:17 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-20 05:43:30 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-20 12:39:13 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-21 04:29:13 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-21 13:06:04 
Re: Algebra Questions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-22 05:42:14 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-18 15:09:35 
Re: Algebra Questions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-19 06:35:54 
Re: Algebra Questions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-29 15:36:55 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-12 13:36:21 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-05-12 14:08:00 

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