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Re: Changing definitions

by Paul Sperry <plsperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 12, 2008 at 05:14 PM

In article <FF8ek.131713$AH5.119809@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Jack
<jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> >
> > You already know this is going to get you in trouble.
> >
> >>the first I fix with the definition 'let t : N ---> N be arbitrary'.
> >
> > This isn't a definition and you can't "fix" an arbitrary function.
> >
> 
> I used the word fix in the belief that it means ' take it to be 
> such-and-such until further notice'.
> 
> >>Immediately after the first definition, I define c(n) as
> >>(t(n)(t(n)-1))/2.
> >
> > This is a problem since your first "definition" didn't define anything
> > so c(n) could be virtually any number.
> >
> 
> 
> I don't mind as long as t(n) is a finite integer.
> 
> 
> > I think the first "definition" was in regard to the _letter_ "t" and
it
> > was supposed to say that the letter "t" was going to stand for a
> > function from |N to |N.
> >
> > Here is what I think you meant:
> >
> > "Let J be a set of primes and for n in |N define
> > t(n) = |{p in J : p divides n}| and let c(n) = (1/2)*t(n)*(t(n) - 1)."
> >
> 
> That's more like my second definition. The first doesn't have anything
to do 
> with primes. But I want c(n) to be (t(n)(t(n)-1))/2 for both cases.
> 
> With thanks.
> 

So you want something like

"If f : |N -> |N , let c_f(n) = (1/2)*f(n)*(f(n) - 1)"

Since c depends on the function it must be tagged somehow with the
function name.

You can then continue:

"Let J be a set of primes and for n in |N define
t(n) = |{p in J : p divides n}|". 

Then you can refer to c_t(n) if needs be.

BTW, you can't depend on me remembering anything that was said in
previous threads.

You may want t_J instead of t - I don't know.

-- 
Paul Sperry
Columbia, SC (USA)
 




 51 Posts in Topic:
Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-11 18:09:26 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-11 15:03:41 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-11 23:57:13 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-11 23:03:06 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-12 17:27:39 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-12 15:40:04 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-12 21:41:11 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-12 17:14:26 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-12 23:10:52 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-12 22:34:14 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-13 14:38:37 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-13 14:01:04 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-13 19:37:54 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-13 17:29:38 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 03:25:35 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-14 00:56:30 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 16:13:40 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-14 17:22:16 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 23:06:49 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-15 20:59:41 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-15 17:45:58 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-15 22:10:15 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-15 22:27:36 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-15 23:29:37 
Re: Changing definitions
Sperry <plsperry@[EMAI  2008-07-16 00:21:48 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-16 00:28:37 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-16 11:19:33 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 15:53:37 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-16 12:48:08 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-16 13:37:54 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 16:11:57 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 20:53:15 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-16 21:07:58 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 15:46:15 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-17 13:03:21 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:39:01 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:04:48 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 14:47:38 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 10:41:53 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 22:58:04 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:38:03 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 19:50:56 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:06:40 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-20 15:11:08 
Re: Changing definitions
Virgil <Virgil@[EMAIL   2008-07-20 14:03:39 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 16:17:19 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-14 14:58:47 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-14 14:59:54 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 16:13:26 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-14 21:39:11 
Re: Changing definitions
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-07-12 00:12:00 

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