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Re: Changing definitions

by Paul Sperry <plsperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 16, 2008 at 09:07 PM

In article <Mksfk.20$dl5.11@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Jack <jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Paul,
> 
>     One chief reason why it looks right that, in my notation, I retain
the 
> full x,y in eg. N(x,y,t_j) instead of using only x is that on occasions
I 
> replace x and y with specific prescribed values. 

I presume x and y come from [x, y]. Since you now say y - x is
variable, y is not determined by x, so it appears you _must_ include y.

> It is has become an issue 
> as to how much emphasis I should place on consistency of style; I feel I

> oughtn't say N(x,t_J) one moment and N(1,a(J),t_J) the next, when 1 and
a(J) 
> obviously replace the x and the merely implicit y.

That is correct; you ought not. My suggestion on omitting the y was
based on my apparently mistaken understanding that y - x was constant
throughout.

>  This has become a broader issue because when I define my value z as
(1/2)y 
> I then can, more justifiably, deploy only a z and not a full 1,y
reference. 

Brian has discussed the z = (1/2)y business. I'll add that introducing
a new symbol "z" for the reader to remember when "y/2" (or even 
(y + 1)/2) works just as well is probably counterproductive.

> But then some of my references, as a matter of consistency (in view of
how I 
> have originally defined the set or function, eg. as N(x,y,t), I make the
1,z 
> reference while in other, simultaneous references to sets defined after
I 
> had defined z, I use only the z, but the reference is to exactly the
same 
> interval. It looks awkward.

I'm not at all sure what you are trying to say above but, now, with
lengths being variable, _any_ reference to an interval _must_ reference
_both_ end points.

I'm guessing N(x,y,t) is some sort of function - it is probably a
surrogate for N([x,y],t). In any case, if it is a function, you are
obliged to give its domain and codomain; i.e. N : ? -> ??.

In regard to a question in another thread, a common notation for the
even non-negative integers is 2|N; the odd ones are |N - 2|N.

I've included below where we are so far.

*******
Let |N be the set of non-negative integers.
The notation [x, y] will be taken to mean x <= y in |N and 
[x, y] = {n in |N : x <= n <= y}

DEFINITION 1.1 For a function t : |N -> |N define a function
c_t : |N -> |N by c_t(n) = (1/2)*t(n)*(t(n) - 1).

DEFINITION 2. For a set of primes J define t_J : |N -> |N by 
t_J(n) = |{p in J : p divides n}|.

REMARK. For convenience of notation we will write c(n, J) instead of
c_(t_J)(n).

DEFINITION 3. For t : |N - |N define s_I(t) = sum(t(n) : n is in I);
define s'_I(t) = sum(t(n) : n is in I and t(n) > 1)

********

I've corrected the typos, replaced the reference to interval I by [x,
y] and changed c(J, n) to c(n, J).

Regarding the latter change, c_(t_j)(n) is read "c sub t sub J of n"
with "J" preceding "n"; that's why I originally wrote c(J, n).

I would much rather proceed from here rather than skip around with all
sorts of undefined things being referenced.

Feel free to make up your own definitions etc.; in fact, I would prefer
that you did.

-- 
Paul Sperry
Columbia, SC (USA)
 




 51 Posts in Topic:
Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-11 18:09:26 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-11 15:03:41 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-11 23:57:13 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-11 23:03:06 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-12 17:27:39 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-12 15:40:04 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-12 21:41:11 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-12 17:14:26 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-12 23:10:52 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-12 22:34:14 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-13 14:38:37 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-13 14:01:04 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-13 19:37:54 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-13 17:29:38 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 03:25:35 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-14 00:56:30 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 16:13:40 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-14 17:22:16 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 23:06:49 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-15 20:59:41 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-15 17:45:58 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-15 22:10:15 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-15 22:27:36 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-15 23:29:37 
Re: Changing definitions
Sperry <plsperry@[EMAI  2008-07-16 00:21:48 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-16 00:28:37 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-16 11:19:33 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 15:53:37 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-16 12:48:08 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-16 13:37:54 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 16:11:57 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 20:53:15 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-16 21:07:58 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 15:46:15 
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Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-17 13:03:21 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:39:01 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:04:48 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 14:47:38 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 10:41:53 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 22:58:04 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:38:03 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 19:50:56 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:06:40 
Re: Changing definitions
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-20 15:11:08 
Re: Changing definitions
Virgil <Virgil@[EMAIL   2008-07-20 14:03:39 
Re: Changing definitions
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 16:17:19 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-14 14:58:47 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-14 14:59:54 
Re: Changing definitions
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-14 16:13:26 
Re: Changing definitions
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-14 21:39:11 
Re: Changing definitions
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-07-12 00:12:00 

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