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Re: Question about a set

by "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 20, 2008 at 03:19 PM

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:41:54 +0100, Jack <jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in <news:QFLgk.14194$9S6.11255@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in
alt.algebra.help:

> "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:hmapmaf61g2e$.1dk3xpc4s4kgu.dlg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:58:13 +0100, Jack <jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote in <news:8Pqgk.9112$X72.6423@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in
>> alt.algebra.help:

[...]

>>> The integer b is a member of B if and only if any p or q
>>> divide n in [x,y]  such that n=(y+1)/2-b, or n=
>>> (y+1)/2+b.

>> This is incomprehensible.

> Why? 

Because it makes no sense as English, let alone as
mathematics.

> It's exactly as you had it: B(x, p, q) = {b \in |N :
> p | x + b or q |  x - b}.

No, it isn't: what I wrote is meaningful.

> If I might do my best to give a tantalising insight into
> my gobbledegook  world, this is the way I formulated -
> for what it's worth - what I wrote:

> We take only ('such that') those 'n' for which ('n=...') if you subtract
b 
> from (y+1)/2 ('....=(y+1)/2-b') and get  p,q|n ('if any p or q divide
n') 
> then you get a member of B ('integer b is a member of B if and only
if...').

Let's look at that without the parenthetical comments and
incorrect quotation marks[*]:

   We take only those n for which if you subtract 
   b from (y + 1)/2 and get p,q | n then you get a
   member of B.
   
This also isn't English.

[*]  When you put quotation marks around the letter, you're
referring to the symbol itself, the lower-case en, not to
its value.

> My only issues are how I convey to the reader that the
> members of B(x, p, q)  are always integers n in [1,y];
> and that x is always (1+y)/2; and that I  want to be able
> to refer to a set in which every possible p and q, i.e. 
> every member of J, is considered in such a fa****on.

The first two are trivial and have been addressed elsewhere.
The last remains incomprehensible.

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Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 21:24:56 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-16 23:39:25 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 15:33:14 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 13:03:19 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 18:47:23 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 14:26:48 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 19:53:52 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 14:59:53 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 17:36:44 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-18 14:34:19 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:18:09 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:42:52 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 15:05:11 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 12:00:31 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 19:58:13 
Re: Question about a set
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-19 15:27:38 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:31:31 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 20:42:11 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:21:34 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 19:41:54 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:19:39 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:32:49 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:50:58 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 15:14:57 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 10:46:14 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 22:54:47 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:31:04 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 15:19:25 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 15:25:28 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 15:13:13 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 20:23:13 
Re: Question about a set
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-21 20:40:02 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 16:16:27 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 22:42:02 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 18:54:26 
Re: Question about a set
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-17 15:24:08 

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