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Re: Question about a set

by "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 21, 2008 at 03:13 PM

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:19:25 +0100, Jack <jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in <news:LV0hk.20015$WX2.9336@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in
alt.algebra.help:

> "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:ldt3l7najjfj.7f3iq4q1vwp6$.dlg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:54:47 +0100, Jack <jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote in <news:ootgk.39471$7B3.17188@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in
>> alt.algebra.help:

[...]

>>> What, then, is the best way to convey that all integers in
>>> B are in  [1,(y+1/2)]?

>> That's a new condition that wasn't present in your original
>> definition.  If that's what you want, then I'd return to a
>> slightly modified version of the previous definition:

>>   B(x, p, q) = {b in [1, x] : p | x + b or q | x - b}.

> OK -- and could you advise me as to how I should reference
> B when I am taking every member of J as a value p and
> also every member of J as a value q? 

You still haven't explained what you mean by this.

> In other words, the set of sets B for a given J? 

Is *that* what you were trying to convey?  Ye gods and
little fishes.  That's simply {B(x, p, q) : p, q in J} if
you allow sets B(x, p, q) with p = q; if not, then it's
{B(x, p, q) : p, q in J & p != q}.

> Perhaps I just write out  a new definition, "let
> B_{0}(x,J) be the set of sets B for a given J"?

I would not use B_0 as the name of a collection of sets that
are individually called B; script-B(x, J) would be more
appropriate.

<later>

> Actually, that won't get me what I want. I want to be able
> to refer to the sum of the cardinalities of all possible
> sets B(x,p,q).

If you have a name for a finite collection of sets, it's
trivial to talk about the sum of the cardinalities of those
sets.  If F is a finite family of sets, the sum of the
cardinalities of the members of F is obviously 
sum{|f| : f in F}.
 




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Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 21:24:56 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-16 23:39:25 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 15:33:14 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 13:03:19 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 18:47:23 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 14:26:48 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 19:53:52 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 14:59:53 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 17:36:44 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-18 14:34:19 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:18:09 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:42:52 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 15:05:11 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 12:00:31 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 19:58:13 
Re: Question about a set
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-19 15:27:38 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:31:31 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 20:42:11 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:21:34 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 19:41:54 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:19:39 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:32:49 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:50:58 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 15:14:57 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 10:46:14 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 22:54:47 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:31:04 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 15:19:25 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 15:25:28 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 15:13:13 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 20:23:13 
Re: Question about a set
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-21 20:40:02 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 16:16:27 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 22:42:02 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 18:54:26 
Re: Question about a set
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-17 15:24:08 

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