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Re: Question about a set

by "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 21, 2008 at 04:16 PM

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:23:13 +0100, Jack <jj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in <news:zm5hk.26530$gU4.6599@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in
alt.algebra.help:

[...]

>> {B(x, p, q) : p, q in J & p != q}.

> What's that exclamation mark about? Is it what I type, an
> exclamation mark?

'!=' is a standard ASCII representation of the not-equals
sign.  LaTaX \not=, I believe.

>>> Perhaps I just write out  a new definition, "let
>>> B_{0}(x,J) be the set of sets B for a given J"?

>> I would not use B_0 as the name of a collection of sets that
>> are individually called B; script-B(x, J) would be more
>> appropriate.

> 'script-B'? What's that then?

An upper-case script letter <B>.  Possibly LaTeX
\mathcal{B}.

>> <later>

>>> Actually, that won't get me what I want. I want to be able
>>> to refer to the sum of the cardinalities of all possible
>>> sets B(x,p,q).

>> If you have a name for a finite collection of sets, it's
>> trivial to talk about the sum of the cardinalities of those
>> sets.  If F is a finite family of sets, the sum of the
>> cardinalities of the members of F is obviously
>> sum{|f| : f in F}.

> So with the sets B, I define my set script-B(x, J), then write 
> "sum{|B(x,p,q)| : B(x,pq) in script-B"?

There are at least three errors there: a missing comma, a
missing right curly brace, and missing arguments on the name
of the collection of sets.  You want:

   sum{|B(x, p, q)| : B(x, p, q) in script-B(x, J)}
   
However, you don't actually need all of that clutter:

   sum{|B| : B in script-B(x, J)}
   
says exactly the same thing.

> And if I want the union of all B(x,p,q), what then?

Just stick a union sign in front of script-B(x, J).  I
suppose that in LaTeX this is something like

   \bigcup \mathcal{B}(x, J)
   
(There are many other perfectly good ways to write it, but
this is the simplest.)
 




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Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-16 21:24:56 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-16 23:39:25 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 15:33:14 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 13:03:19 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 18:47:23 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 14:26:48 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-17 19:53:52 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-17 14:59:53 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 17:36:44 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-18 14:34:19 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:18:09 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:42:52 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 15:05:11 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 12:00:31 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 19:58:13 
Re: Question about a set
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-07-19 15:27:38 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:31:31 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 20:42:11 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:21:34 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-20 19:41:54 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 15:19:39 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-18 22:32:49 
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"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 00:50:58 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 15:14:57 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-19 10:46:14 
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"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-19 22:54:47 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-20 14:31:04 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 15:19:25 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 15:25:28 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 15:13:13 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 20:23:13 
Re: Question about a set
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-21 20:40:02 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 16:16:27 
Re: Question about a set
"Jack" <jj@[  2008-07-21 22:42:02 
Re: Question about a set
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-21 18:54:26 
Re: Question about a set
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-17 15:24:08 

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