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Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE

by fugettaboutit <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 26, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Hey Axel,

Talk to me a little more about dynamips and hands-on experience...do you 
think this is consistent with most current CCIE's? Your idea kind of 
flies in the face of "conventional wisdom", however if it's true, I'm so 
there! The cost has been holding me back. Conservative estimates 
(including a lab) put the CCIE at around US$15,000. My company won't 
sup****t my study efforts despite my willingness to pay the funds back if 
I leave before a minimum of 3 years. Not looking for a handout, but I 
simply don't have those kind of funds available. If you're for real, and 
experience, some book study, and dynamips is indeed adequate, that would 
be some good news!


Axel Gärtner wrote:
> If you really want to go for CCIE, skip the CCNP. Being an active CCIE 
> no-one will care if you have other Professional- or Associate-Level 
> certs as well.
> 
> However CCIE is really not that easy and while studying books will help 
> you for the CCIE written exam, it won´t get you through the lab.
> I passed CCIE 2 years ago - cost me really lots of time studying 
> including a 4-week boot-camp (I´d never made it without that).
> 
> Im****tant question: who´ll be paying for the fun? Apart from the time 
> you need the total CCIE-project could easily cost you something like 
> $10.000 (very rough calculation $5000 bootcamp, $1000 for the written 
> exam+books, $4000 for 3 lab attemps - the average candidate needs about 
> 3 lab attempts to succeed).
> 
> If you are working as a network engineer, forget about getting lab 
> equipment etc... a lot of people suggest that for CCIE-preparation 
> you´ll need your own lab (routers+switches...), that´s not true. If you 
> work as network engineer, you´ll have the usual hands-on-experience 
> already (hopefully?). For the rest a emulator like dynamips will do the 
> job. (besides old 25xx routers running old IOS images are not of that 
> much help anyway - cisco uses new routers running IOS 12.4 in the lab).
> I´d definitely recommend a (good) boot-camp. Expensive but really worth 
> it, could save you much studying-time and a couple of failed
lab-attempts.
> 
> Axel
> 
> jcle schrieb:
>> I have been a network engineer for 4 years now and I a recently passed
>> my CCNA (should have taken this a long time ago) pretty effortlessly
>> using wendell odom's offical exam cert guide.  Anyways a respected
>> colluege of mine says to go strait for the CCIE skipping the CCNP.
>> Most of the stufff covered in the NP seems to be covered in wendell
>> odoms CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide, 3rd
>> Edition.  Anyways should I go straight for the IE?  I like the cisco
>> press books by odom and find them very usful.
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
jcle <jmsprang@[EMAIL   2008-03-22 15:02:54 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
fugettaboutit <no@[EMA  2008-03-23 12:39:27 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
Slawomir Kawala <slwkk  2008-03-23 17:32:48 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
Paul Matthews <paul@[E  2008-04-04 16:46:06 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Axel_G=E4r  2008-03-25 21:22:14 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
fugettaboutit <no@[EMA  2008-03-26 11:37:36 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Axel_G=E4r  2008-03-27 00:02:10 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
gagznos_joe@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-17 16:43:28 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
Paul Matthews <paul@[E  2008-05-01 16:00:02 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
jw <jw@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-01 23:19:41 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
Rob <xxy@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-28 09:29:35 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
Radrage <Radrage@[EMAI  2008-07-09 16:18:10 
Re: CCNP or go strait for the CCIE
James <j@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-09 19:25:30 

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