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Re: I need more advice from the pro's

by Stephen <stephen_hope@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 25, 2008 at 04:03 PM

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:03:54 -0400, "Scott Perry"
<scott.perry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Get your certification on your own this summer and then enroll in an 
>associate degree program at some acredited local community college for 
>information technology for this fall.  Acredited community colleges and 
>universities allow you to transfer cl***** and credits.
>Those small training schools do not and cost a lot more.  As for the
quality 
>of their education, it has yet to be proven.  I prefer the instructors
hired 
>and retained by a larger institution like a college than the instructors 
>hired by a struggling training company.
>Depending on which accredited college which you decide to attend, they
will 
>very likely have cl***** that you can skip by showing proof of your 
>certification.  It is cheaper and does not make you double some of your
work 
>in the classroom.  Spending your time and money at some learning
institute 
>that cannot transfer your credits to a university or other college is a
real 
>waste.  When you tire of being a grunt in the IT field and want to get a 
>bachelor's degree to make your last 10, 20, or 30 years of employment
more 
>benficial, you will hate yourself for going to an institue which does not

>transfer cl***** and credits to a 4 year college or university.
>
>I have seen someone with a PC and server background pick up a CCNA in 3 
>months.  In this case, they actually commited one evening of their time
each 
>week without exception, did not have to pay for anything other than their

>book, and passed on their 2nd try.  The CCNA can be picked up in time for
a 
>fall college semester to start.
>
>As for this "information security" title, I would not value that more
than a 
>regular "information technology" title.  Sure, you sound more security 
>oriented, but you also sound more "pidgeon-holed" or unable to broaden
into 
>other positions.  At least a broad information technology title can 
>understand firewalls and security appliances while also knowing the rest
of 
>the field.

It might be worth something if it works towards something like CISSP
or another independent security accreditation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CISSP

ask them what comes out the other end, and then hunt up the acronyms.
>
>If you want to get a job, it might be a lot better to get the CCNA and
state 
>that you are enrolled and attending a degree program.
>
>-----
>Scott Perry
>Indianapolis, IN
>-----
>
><Mitch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:m5il54h2qi753khckimacbe912facjg7tq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>I had a tentative plan to start studying right away for the CCNET,
>> hopefully get a job..any job...then continue with CCNA.
>>
>> Then I was going to attack the Information Security program at Devry:
>> http://www.devry.edu/keller/programs/information_security/courses.jsp
>>
>> I spoke with that advisor at Devry again.
>> I told her my plan, and she thinks I should chuck the CCNET/CCNA and
>> get started in their info security program right away (of course she
>> does).
>>
>> My point was, I can hopefully get a job with the CCNET, and then work
>> on the security degree while I had a job.
>>
>> Her point is, just having the fact that I'm pursuing their degree is
>> great on a resume.
>>
>> My point was, just being enrolled in a program doesn't mean that you
>> actually know how to DO the stuff...right?  If that were they case, I
>> could have got an engineering job before getting my engineering
>> degree.
>>
>> Anyway, do you have any clue how long I should expect it to take to
>> get the CCNET if I'm not currently working, and it's my priority?
>>
>> And does she have any valid point about being enrolled in a program
>> and thinking that will help get me a job?  Unless of course the first
>> course on the list (an 8-week course) would be enough to get me in the
>> door somewhere.
>>
>> Looking for advice, here. 
>
-- 
Regards

stephen_hope@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 4 Posts in Topic:
I need more advice from the pro's
Mitch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-19 21:03:44 
Re: I need more advice from the pro's
"Scott Perry" &  2008-06-25 10:03:54 
Re: I need more advice from the pro's
Stephen <stephen_hope@  2008-06-25 16:03:50 
Re: I need more advice from the pro's
Mitch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-26 02:33:06 

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