Re: Engineering Certifications

"Patrick Michael" <heismanpat@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Bernie" <Bernie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 03:26:09 -0500, "Patrick Michael"
> >
> > I disagree with you and, dare I say, agree with ec on this one small
> > point.  Maybe that is the history of the term software engineer and
> > yes most programmers wrongfully adopt the title.  But it is a true
> > title and it is warranted by many.
> > <snip>
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> Yea, I should have clarified that better.  I was more or less directing
my
> comments toward people who refer to themselves as "software engineers",
when
> they're really just plain old programmers/developers.  From what I
> understand of software engineering, it's a subset of programming that
deals
> specifically with making sure programs run as efficiently and as precise
as
> possible.  In that sense, it's definitely engineering...however, using
> "software engineer" as a synonym for "computer programmer" is often a
> misnomer.
>
> Thanks for the correction.
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>
>

Based on what you "understand of software engineering", John Carmack is
MOST
DEFINITELY a software engineer. He is not involoved in the development or
programming of his game. He specifically creates the 3D engine ( insane
amounts of mathematics ), then makes these render 3D as efficiently and as
precisely as possible across a broad range of 3D hardware. He has no
degree,
and is not registered in any state. He is, however, a software engineer.