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Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop

by Robin <stikiewicket@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 18, 2006 at 05:18 PM

Mark Probert wrote:
> JRy, you are making assumptions that the posted information does not 
> sup****t. The posted information says that the parents know their child 
> can handle scout camping with minor accommodations. They had to derive 
> that knowledge from somewhere, and I suspect that it was from their 
> being involved with their child.

Mark, you are making assumptions that the posted information does not 
sup****t.  The fact that the parents "know" that their child can handle 
scout camping is irrelevant.  The people who must be confident of this 
are the scout officials; they are the ones who are responsible for the 
safety of the child.  Parents "know" a lot about their children.  And 
they may well be right in this case, but there is no indication that 
they have made an effort to demonstrate this to anyone.

> Apparently, you have not had to be a parent to a special needs child. It

> is often a 24/7/365 effort. The special needs parents I know-all of 
> them-are actively involved in their children's lives. There is no way of

> avoiding it.

Apparently you have never been responsible for a group of someone else's 
kids.  It's a scary proposition, and one not lightly accepted.  There is 
no way that I would risk the safety of a group of kids on the word of 
the parent of one of them, especially if that parent had not expended 
any effort to validate what they were telling me.

> As such a parent to two children, I find your ASSumptions insulting.

You are making assumptions that are much more sweeping than anyone else. 
  Your arrogant attitude doesn't help your case.  Being a parent does 
not give you the right to be insensitive to others, even on Usenet.

> BTW, I also found, when we attempted to have both of my sons get 
> involved in Scouting, that there is serious resistance to having a 
> special needs child in a regular group. We were often directed to 
> special groups, which were woefully inadequate for my boys.

And of course this can be generalized to every Boy Scout group on the 
planet.

> We eventually abandoned our efforts, and I will never, ever, sup****t 
> scouting. You should note that my father's mother's maiden name is 
> Baden, and, yes, she was related.

So you had a bad experience, and you're eager to paint with a wide 
brush.  As I said, I'm not a fan of the Boy Scouts, but at least I am 
willing to try to get all the facts, or at least a few more than were 
provided, before coming to a conclusion.  You're amusing . . . at the 
same time as you make a bunch of assumptions based on your past history 
with Scouting, you deride others for making assumptions.
 




 26 Posts in Topic:
Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Fred Goodwin, CMA&q  2006-08-17 19:37:16 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"JRY" <jryez  2006-08-18 12:45:30 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Lee <REM0VElbspamtrap@  2006-08-18 10:47:58 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-18 14:13:41 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Susan Moskowitz&quo  2006-08-19 04:54:45 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-19 19:40:14 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-18 14:10:32 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Robin <stikiewicket@[E  2006-08-18 17:18:22 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Lee <REM0VElbspamtrap@  2006-08-18 16:29:55 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"JoB" <no_em  2006-08-18 21:59:13 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-19 20:00:02 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-19 19:55:48 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"JoB" <no_em  2006-08-18 21:54:43 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Ernie Wisdom"   2006-08-19 16:00:50 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Ernie Wisdom"   2006-08-19 16:00:49 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-19 20:13:20 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Fred Goodwin, CMA&q  2006-08-18 12:06:51 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-19 19:45:29 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Fred Goodwin, CMA&q  2006-08-18 21:36:54 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-19 20:06:07 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Mike" <yare  2006-08-19 07:30:28 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Brian Westley <westley  2006-08-19 19:40:59 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-19 19:41:44 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Graham Holland"  2006-08-19 15:12:58 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
"Fred Goodwin, CMA&q  2006-08-19 20:58:52 
Re: Parents File Lawsuit Against Boy Scout Troop
Mark Probert <markprob  2006-08-20 19:35:03 

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