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Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance

by Josh Rosenbluth <jrosenbluth@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM

On May 9, 8:07=A0pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Josh Rosenbluth <jrosenbl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >No where does the Constitution prohibit the members of Congress from
> >> >voluntarily joining together as a body in prayer or from inviting
> >> >recognized religious leaders to lead the prayer.
>
> >> Outside a session of Congress, nowhere. =A0Inside a session of
Congress=
,
> >> in the Establishment clause and the religious test clause.
>
> >SCOTUS strognly implied otherwise in Marsh.
>
> I can't remember whether I read the decision, but my impression was
> that the court is unwilling to regulate Congress's internal operation
> directly due to separation of powers

The Court ruled the Nebraska Legislature may begin each of its
sessions with a prayer by a chaplain paid by the state with the
legislature's approval.  The same reasoning would apply to Congress.

> >> You are ignoring the religious test clause. =A0If it were
constitutiona=
l
> >> for Congress to honor someone with the permission to lead a prayer,
> >> then their religion could not be a factor and the pastafarian has as
> >> much right as the fundie to lead the prayer.
>
> >The religious test clause covers qualification for office,
>
> Not merely that. =A0It also covers a "public trust" which is any granted
> right or entitlement.

Precedential citations, and in particular what constitutes a "public
trust".

Josh Rosenbluth
 




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US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-08 04:02:40 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 05:22:44 
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Middle Class Warrior <  2008-05-08 13:11:53 
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jls <jls1016@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 06:41:47 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-05-08 10:42:47 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
cpt banjo <cptbanjo@[E  2008-05-08 08:37:21 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 09:41:52 
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"thomas p." <  2008-05-08 19:16:46 
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"Lord Vetinari"  2008-05-08 15:12:04 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 12:09:34 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-05-10 10:45:53 
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Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-05-10 10:57:31 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-13 05:59:47 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 10:18:11 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
"Lord Vetinari"  2008-05-08 15:22:52 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 12:07:58 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Don Martin <drdonmarti  2008-05-08 10:51:12 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
jl <jls1016@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-08 11:03:03 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 12:19:44 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-05-08 18:20:22 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 12:38:42 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-05-08 18:01:51 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Leo Marx <LeoMarx@[EMA  2008-05-09 10:48:54 
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snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 14:33:20 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
"Lord Vetinari"  2008-05-09 16:56:58 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 17:32:24 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-05-09 09:51:50 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
snakehawk <snakehawk@[  2008-05-08 17:56:23 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-05-09 10:00:47 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
cpt banjo <cptbanjo@[E  2008-05-09 15:14:13 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-05-09 15:43:23 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-05-09 20:07:35 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 06:12:26 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 08:06:22 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
Lord Calvert <Calvertd  2008-05-09 17:26:32 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 08:06:08 

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