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Re: The Religious Rights' Unreal Understanding of Homo***uality:

by Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 10, 2008 at 04:14 PM

On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:30:06 -0700, Peter Franks
<none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:41:57 -0700, Peter Franks
>> <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Who/what is an example of the "Religious Right"?
>> 
>> James Dobson
>> 
>> Pat Robertson
>> 
>> Falwell enterprises and his media and Liberty Baptist
>> universities churning out lawyers.
>> 
>> ORU university spreading hatred
>> 
>> The Hierarchy of Southern Baptist churches
>> 
>> ALL of which have devoted millions of dollars to
>> promotion and practice of putting religious dogma into
>> public policy
>
>What is unreal regarding their understanding of homo***uality?

All their conclusions.

All are based on unproven facts and authority

All conclusions accepted as IF the "authority" were
credible.

No one gives a rats ass what a bunch of christian
fundamentalists believe or accept to be "truth"

What IS relevant is their influence and insistence that
THEIR conclusions are "truth" and the influence it has
on government policy.

If there were no influence no one would give a ****.
 




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Josh Rosenbluth <jrose  2008-05-13 14:54:46 
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