Re: The Religious Rights' Unreal Understanding of Homo***uality:

On Sun, 11 May 2008 02:49:35 GMT, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Free Lunch" <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>I'm not saying you have to go along with that. What I am saying is that
it
>>>is a natural conclusion whether you agree with it or not. The corollary
>>>conclusion is that believing that same *** relation****ps is natural or
>>>normal is unreal. Ergo, Dr. Dobson has a valid view, you do not. You
argue
>>>that Dr. Dobson has a wrong headed view, but I would argue his view has
>>>better standing than does yours. Dr. Dobson has a view -- however much
you
>>>do not like it -- that he can sup****t with a logical argument. Your
view 
>>>is
>>>only sup****ted by emotion.
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>> You have to remember that many cultures had no problem with men having
>> more than one ***ual partner. Marriage was an arrangement that had
>> nothing to do with love. ***ual trysts were tolerated, even when the
>> Pope had them. There may be a few gays who are completely unable to
have
>> *** with women, but most are bi***ual to some degree, however small.
>> Doing their culturally required duty may not have been what they
wanted,
>> but that didn't mean they could not.
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>You are defining the exception, I'm talking about the rule. *** is to
make 
>kids, and if so then *** must include opposite gender participants. ***
for 
>pleasure is fine and dandy, but homo***uals choose to be so because they 
>have no chance of making kids, the only resoult of their ***uality is 
>pleasure. The species can not survive on pleasure, therefore pleasure
must 
>be a chosen goal. The pure animal in us says that we have *** to have
more 
>kids. Instinct says that homo***uality will not further the species, 
>therefore some of us chose to defy instinct.

Thank you for missing the point completely.

>The Pope might have 15 wives, but he makes children with them, so from a 
>procreation perspective, it makes sense.