On May 13, 12:41=A0pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> israeliteknight <israelitekni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >By DEFINITION, jews were a RACE,
>
> By science, they weren't and aren't.
>
> >jews today CLAIM to be a race,
>
> No they don't. =A0They may claim to be a "tribe" in the sense of an
> ethnic group.
>
> >jews claim they are NOT Israelites,
>
> There are no Israelites. =A0But I doubt that any significant number of
> Jews has ever made any such claim.
>
> >Israelites are a RACE,
>
> No, and they don't exist.
>
> >and neither the
> >race of jews nor the RACE of Israelites are to have anything to do
> >with the RACE called Ammonites [descendants of Ammon], nor the RACE
> >called Moabites [descendants of Moab]:
>
> None of them around either.
>
> >Even though both Ammonites and Moabites were descendants of Lot, they
> >are STILL considered by GOD HIMSELF
>
> You don't speak for God, nincompoop. =A0You do a lousy job of speaking
> for yourself.
>
> >to be separate and distinct races who we are to have NOTHING to do
with,
>
> Nobody WANTS to have anything to do with you, so no one cares what
> silly excuse you use for it.
>
> >But there is a final twist declared in Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol
> >10:23: =A0"JEWS BEGAN IN THE 19TH CENTURY TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS
AND
> >ISRAELITES IN 1860".
>
> So much for your claim
>
> >jews claim they are NOT Israelites,
>
> But of course none of this has anything to do with reality.
>
> >iow, jews THEMSELVES claim jews are a RACE
>
> No. =A0There is no use of the word "race" in that quote.
>
> >who are descendants of Esau
>
> There is no mention of the word "Esau" in that quote.
>
> >no matter how much you try to change them to a "religion"!
>
> I'm not trying to change anyone into anything. =A0You are pretending to
> change noisome effluvium from your strange orifice into something that
> makes sense, but you aren't succeeding.
>
> lojbab
> Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
> loj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=A0 Lojban languagewww.lojban.org
>>>>jews today CLAIM to be a race,
>No they don't. They may claim to be a "tribe" in the sense of an
>ethnic group.
As usual, what you "think", and REALITY, are two opposite ends of the
totem pole:
"OUR *****RACE***** IS THE MASTER RACE. WE ARE DIVINE GODS ON THIS
PLANET. WE ARE AS DIFFERENT FROM THE INFERIOR RACES AS THEY ARE FROM
INSECTS. IN FACT, COMPARED TO OUR RACE, OTHER RACES ARE BEASTS AND
ANIMALS, CATTLE AT BEST. OTHER RACES ARE CONSIDERED AS HUMAN
EXCREMENT. OUR DESTINY IS TO RULE OVER THE INFERIOR RACES. OUR
EARTHLY KINGDOM WILL BE RULED BY OUR LEADER WITH A ROD OF IRON. THE
M***** WILL LICK OUR FEET AND SERVE US AS OUR SLAVES." MENACHEM
BEGIN, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL
The preface of The Jewish Encyclopedia, signed by Cyrus Adler, is this
statement:
'An even more delicate problem that presented itself at the very
outset was the attitude to be observed by the encyclopedia in regard
to those Jews who, while born within the Jewish community, have, for
one reason or another, abandoned it. As the present work deals with
the Jews as a race, it was found impossible to exclude those who were
of that race, whatever their religious affiliations might have been.'
"In the same encyclopedia is a statement by Joseph Jacobs, B.A.,
formerly president of the Jewish Historical Society of England:
'Anthropologically considered, the Jews are a race of markedly uniform
type, due either to unity of race or to similarity of environment.'
One of the first things I discovered is that while Gentiles who call
the Jews a "race" are condemned, Jewish leaders have for centuries
routinely called themselves a race. The leader of American Jewry in
the 1930s, Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, said it succinctly in this dramatic
statement,
"Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and
we are a race."
Right up to the present day, there are many statements illustrating
how Jewish leaders matter-of-factly view themselves not just as a
religion, but as an identifiable race, genetically distinguishable
from other peoples.
Nahum Goldman, one of the leading Jews of the 20th Century and former
president of the World Zionist Organization, said it very bluntly:
=2EThe Jews are divided into two categories, those who admit they belong
to a race distinguished by a history thousands of years old, and those
who don't. The latter are open to the charge of dishonesty.
The former Israeli Prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking to
Jewish group in southern California said:
"If Israel had not come into existence after World War II then I am
certain the Jewish race wouldn't have survived.I stand before you and
say you must strengthen your commitment to Israel."
An editorial entitled "Some Other Race" in the New York weekly Forward
(A very prestigious Jewish publication) urges Jews to list themselves
on the U.S. Government census form as a race. It goes on to suggest:
". On question eight [of the form, which asks about race], you might
consider doing what more than one member of our redaktzia [editorial
staff] has done: checking the box 'some other race' and writing in the
word 'Jew'."
Charles Bronfman, a main sponsor of the $210 million "Birthright
Israel," an organization specifically committed to preventing
intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles, expressed the need to
preserve the Jewish genetic character as expressed in the Jewish DNA.
Bronfman is brother of Edgar Bronfman, Sr., president of the World
Jewish Congress. He said,
".you're losing a lot - losing the kind of feeling you have when you
know [that] throughout the world there are people who somehow or other
have the same kind of DNA that you have."
Are you going to continue to claim that logjam is RIGHT and these
worldwide jew "experts", who are MUCH MORE PUBLISHED than you'll ever
be, are ALL WRONG?
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