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The Business of Child Stealing in Florida

by fx <fx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM

The Business of Child Stealing in Florida

http://www.nolanchart.com/article4132.html

American taxpayers fund a racket that wrenches the stomach. That is CPS. 
Some of those involved claim their are just following orders, others 
just pocket the bounty on children wrenched from their parent's arms.

Nuremberg answered the question of orders; profiting from human 
trafficking should be a capital offense.by Melinda Pillsbury-Foster
(Libertarian)
Saturday, June 28, 2008

Under 5 years, blond, blue-eyed - $6,000.00. a top of the line product


We are going to take you behind the lies into the ugly truth that is 
destroying families for profit every day, in every community across 
America.  You won't want to believe it but when you see their faces, 
hear their voices, you will understand why this is happening and what it 
means to your own life, even if you don't have children.


The same system that views children as commodities to be sold also has 
plans for you.  There is a solution and we will get to that.


The CPS steals children using the system paid for by citizens who 
believe it is being used to protect those in need.  That is a fraud; the 
system actually pumps money into the personal accounts of all those 
involved in the system, converting children into cash while destroying 
them and their families.  The number of children who emerge from the 
system, able to function normally, are near zero.  Some are never seen 
again.


The system used includes three stages.  The first phase is to shock and 
intimidate the parents into consenting to let their children be 
processed into the system.  The second phase is to force parents, 
terrified for their children, to begin a process of 'case management.' 
That process is a template that is designed to push the parents into 
emotional meltdown and bankruptcy.  The third phase is to sever the 
parental rights entirely and sell the children.


In the wake of this trauma families are atomized, destroyed.  Parents 
and grandparents never again see the children who connect them to the 
future.  Children lose their past and the anchoring each of us needs to 
develop into a healthy human being.


Those who carry the process through the stages are well compensated. 
Agents, Case workers, judges, physicians, clerks, and others expect and 
receive compensation for services often not even delivered. 
Compensation takes place through cor****ations.  State employees who fail 
to take children out of homes are penalized; many of these leave the 
system which has been converted from a system originally intended to 
help families to one that profits those in control.


Across the country, CPS experienced high turn overs in case workers 
struggling under impossible work loads for many years.  Good people, 
motivated to help struggling families were frustrated and unable to 
help; those are the kinds of caseworkers who simply quit.  Cases of 
extreme abuse while children were in foster care were common.  Nothing 
about the system gave cause for hope it was working.

http://www.liftingtheveil.org/turnover.htm

  Then the picture changed.  The idea that instead of providing services 
the system as a whole should move to the model of generating income took 
hold as the concept of privatization was widely adopted by government. 
Privatization, introduced during the Reagan Years, was pushed by think 
tanks that saw government, a cor****ation itself, as the logical partner 
for other large cor****ate interests. Children,

http://www.sp2.upenn.edu/crysp/re****ts/privatization/Chapter3.pdf

  roads,

http://www.texasturf.org/

military services, each of these and more were recalibrated to provide 
income to those in control.  In this way, the problem with social 
services created an opening that in the late 1990s allowed the least 
ethical to profit from the pain of others.


PL 105-89 (HR 867), passed into law November 19, 1997, was intended to 
ensure that children who could not be reunited with their birth families 
could be placed in loving homes.  But those entrusted to carry out the 
desperately needed changes found the measure enabled a very different 
agenda. CPS agents and caseworkers could be trained to look at their 
industry as a profit center.  The system began to view children as 
product to be harvested and parents as barriers to be demolished.


The system became a template for kidnapping, carried out by barely 
educated caseworkers who were told that they made the law.  This itself 
had become a tenet of belief held by those in power as the foundations 
of Constitutional law continued to be eroded by a judiciary who 
graduated from law school ignorant of America's foundational do***ents. 
  The ****ft from Constitutional law to statute and whim of court, 
low-level government employee, and law enforcement is do***ented in "The 
Anti-Government Movement Guidebook," published by the  National Center 
for State Courts in1999.

http://www.coppercards.com/law/docs/


The stage was set and the feeding frenzy was about to begin.


The process goes through three stages of slow death; ripped from their 
families the children are bewildered, afraid, vulnerable to the system. 
  The process hinges on secrecy and an asserted immunity from 
accountability for all involved.  Power, through the official but 
unacknowledged transfer from the Constitution to government by statute, 
code and whim, renders all of those outside government vulnerable. 
Caught in that process parents lose track of all the things that brought 
happiness and normality to their lives.  Years later this will mark 
them.  Most will never recover.


This is the story of three families.  Each of their stories is still in 
motion because the pain never stops.


Stage One
http://www.mymanatee.org/

Manatee County, Florida has long made a business of stealing children. 
Families who settle there do not know that, however.  They are attracted 
to the weather, the beauty of the area.  If they knew they would never 
settle anyplace in Florida, which is arguably has the most corrupt CPS 
system in the nation.  The County is run by a Board of Commissioners who 
meet at this well polished table.

http://www.mymanatee.org/

Children are a commodity for which there is a steady and growing market 
both in the United States and across the world.  Child ***-slaves arrive 
in Europe and elsewhere from unspecified locations; children taken from 
homes routinely end up in the **** industry.  It has been going on for 
many years but since it did not impact most of us it was easy to ignore. 
  But as counties across the country have cycled down into bankruptcy 
the need to pump harder for every buck to be made has become more 
compelling.  Today it is not just the most vulnerable who are targeted 
but families that would before have been passed over as too well 
connected.  In Manatee County the pumping is in fast forward.



Monday, June 2nd 2008

The two young sons of the Roberts were dropped off at the home of their 
babysitter, Christina Holbrook, residence11534 57th Street Circle East, 
Parrish, Florida.  Both parents work.  Michelle and James Roberts are 
both veterans of the US Navy who met while in service to their country. 
  Both came from families with long and honorable histories of serving 
in the military.


Their oldest son, had been disciplined by his father the day before for 
jumping up and down on his baby brother, a potentially life-threatening 
activity.  Spanking was the kind of discipline James himself experienced 
as a child growing up in Tennessee.  The spanking had left a slight 
bruise.


CPS arrived at the babysitter's home at 9:30am.  They proceeded to strip 
the two boys and photograph them in the ****, questioning them for an 
hour. This was a bewildering and frightening experience for the boys.


The first James and Michelle heard of this was when Michelle received a 
phone call at 3:30pm from Alicia Habib.  Habib presented herself as an 
agent for Child Protective Services, demanding that the couple present 
themselves for an 'interview'. No criminal complaint was presented.  But 
the process of intimidation and fear was launched.


Here, Michelle and James find out, to their shock, that the kids have 
been stripped and photographed.  Left feeling as if the ground had been 
cut out from under them they endured with shock the moment when the 
deputy sheriff read James his Miranda rights.  He was not charged; no 
criminal complaint was served.  Michelle is interviewed.  They are given 
orders.  Michelle is to be present when James saw their children.  CPS 
is moving towards building paperwork to take the children away from 
their parents.


During the interview they were shown the photos taken of their ****d 
children by the deputy.  The children's faces were frozen in tears.  He 
did not show them all the photos, keeping them under the paperwork. 
Michelle found his behavior intimidating.  As the photos were shown he 
questioned her about their use of discipline.


Soon Michelle and James will realize that the CPS has no power unless 
they give it to them.  CPS depends on the ignorance of ordinary people. 
  The first phase had begun.


The system ground them out fine; dehumanizing them and working with 
fine-tuned intention to show them, by its actions, that they had no 
rights and no recourse.  At the end of the week a hearing was set; they 
were now being launched into the second phase of the process that 
intended to wrest their children from them.  But during those endless 
days they began to come out of the shock and consider their 
alternatives.  They considered the Constitution and the rights they knew 
they had both sworn to defend as members of the armed forces of America.


Michelle loaded the two boys in their car and drove them hundreds of 
miles to the town where James had grown up.  There, she left them with 
their great-grandparents.  When you are seven months pregnant no long 
drive is comfortable, but for her children Michelle would risk anything.

In the car she prayed that she would not miscarry the baby held so close 
to her heart.


The two young parents are both veterans of the War in Iraq. Each had 
joined the Navy, after looking forward to serving their country from 
their early teems.   She planned this as her career, since 7th Grade. 
He, since taking in ROTC in High School.


But they had joined a military that they believed cared for its own and 
kept its promises; after finding that their small son would be have to 
be left with someone else while both served in the war zone, they 
resigned.  Their son, Lukas, was born the following October.


Now, they knew what the military is about.  To them, they were just 
bodies to fill slots that civilians could fill at twice the pay.  Never 
previously interested in politics they began to think about how the 
world was being run.


 From the time you join you are told he is your commander and chief. 
She was not a Bush fan, but you cannot say it without fear of reprisal.


But Florida CPS was not finished with them.  Although they did not know 
it, Habib stood to make nearly $10,000 as her bounty for taking the 
children, both very adoptable, from their home.

They never could have imagined that the elderly great-grand-parents 
would be threatened with arrest, but that is what happened.  They began 
studying the Constitution; This, they knew was the real law in America. 
  If they understood it they could use it.


Now they understand that they should never have talked to CPS.  If they 
had not, CPS would have had to leave them alone.  CPS uses fear and 
intimidation to force the appearance that there they have entered into a 
'contract' with parents.  But since a valid contract cannot exist 
without the elements of disclosure, consent, and equitable exchange this 
is a fraud.  All parents get is bankruptcy, heartbreak, and too often 
death.



The Case Plan Ploy – Adam Umholtz

Adam comes from a family that lived in a log cabin in Pennsylvania.  The 
cabin was 230 years old. Made of chestnut beams that are from a species 
that is not extinct the beams were hand hewed and rectangular and criss 
crossed.  Adam's dad was a pastor for the Southern Home Mission Board. 
Adam's younger brother was born there, in the horseshoe shaped valley 
that was filled with berry bushes and food they grew themselves.


Adam went to school at the Advanced Training Institute of America, now 
the ATI.  Now he is an entrepreneur, or was until his life and family 
was hijacked by the CPS.  Adam's children were taken from him and his 
wife on Monday, July 28th, 2007.  They were given a case plan that it 
was impossible to fulfill.


As part of the 72 goals laid out in the plan was one requirement that 
Adam attend a class for ***ual offenders who had served time in prison. 
  This was impossible for Adam to do.  Adam is attending a study on 
successful parents and couples, a study in which he and his wife were 
invited to participate.  Both parents are strong Christians who take 
their faith seriously. Neither parent has ever been to prison for any 
cause, much less a ***ual offense.  The charges were falsified made by a 
neighbor who was later charged with having committed a ***ual offense 
themselves.


Adam cannot attend the cl***** available because he has never been to 
prison and has never been a ***ual offender. He is not eligible for the 
class in any case. So the court told Adam to confess to a crime he did 
not commit to get his kids back.  The court has an agenda.  If Adam 
confesses they have a clear track for severing his parental rights.  The 
lack of justice does not bother the court or the attorney who has urged 
him to confess to a crime he did not commit. They are all paid through 
the process that steals children for resale.


Parents are routinely told that to 'complete their case plan' they must 
fulfill requirements that force them to leave jobs that prevent them 
from attending cl***** scheduled from 9 – 5 on work days.  They are told

they cannot be self employed.  Every possible block is put in their 
paths to complete a 'requirement' that is pointless in any case.  The 
same pattern is re****ted by parents across the United States.  Angelina 
Alexander, a parent in California was told she must quit her job as a 
taxi driver because she was self employed.  Yet she had taken the job, 
the only one she could find, to fulfill the requirements to attend 
cl*****.  In her case the re****t that took her small son from her home 
was from a former boyfriend who had never seen the child.  Complaints 
that the charge was false were ignored as her processing continued.


Mainstream Americans are at risk today and have no idea what is coming. 
In Adam's case the CPS had targeted  the kids because they were 
homeschooling and because they had building materials in the back yard. 
  Then a malicious neighbor,  made ***ual allegations.  The neighbor was 
later proven to have lied.


But the fact that all the 'charges' were illegal did not stop them from 
forcing you to undertake the  'Case Plan.'  There were no charges but 
they had already taken their eight children out of the home.  If the 
family had known they would have refused to talk to CPS.


Adam and his wife are now approaching bankruptcy although they are 
better off than many couples because at least they do not have to hide 
to keep the child still living with them. Most parents face the same 
problem.  Attempts to fulfill the case plan make it impossible to earn a 
living or are impossible to fulfill.  There are no charges.  There have 
been no charges.  There will be no charges. As with most couples, they 
force the father to leave so that they will have a clear shot at 
grabbing the children from the mother.


CPS has continuously made false allegations, added their youngest child, 
born after they took the original eight children, to the present case, 
and over and over ignored the orders of the court.  One of their 
daughters in foster care is suffering from a wound on her foot, acquired 
in the foster home, for which she is receiving no treatment.  The wound 
continues to fester and they can do nothing.


Although there are no charges Adam and his wife are allowed to see the 
kids only two hours a week with supervision.  And the court continues to 
threaten to sever their parental rights. Adam does not intend to let 
that happen.


Adam and his wife are considering their options now that they understand 
the fraud that has been perpetrated.  Those options are growing, along 
with their understanding of the Constitution and how the system in place 
has worked to negate their rights.


Phase Three – Severing Parental Rights

Greg Pound and his wife, Malissa, had their parental rights severed in 
November of 2007.  The incident that brought CPS into their lives was a 
simple accident.  A friend's dog visiting their home bit their baby.  It 
could have happened to anyone; the dog's owner was desperately sorry, 
the dog had never  harmed anyone before.   Accidents happen.  There was 
a time when an accident was treated with offers of assistance, not 
viewed as the means for grabbing children  from their parents and their 
home.  But that was before those in power noticed the op****tunity PL 
105-89 (HR 867) offered them.


For four years the Pounds saw their children for just two hours a month. 
  Looking at the children, across the barriers built by CPS always 
reduced them to tears.


The last time the Pounds saw their children was at the YMCA in Pinellas 
County.  That 'not for profit' is paid 125 million a year, just for that 
county, according to Pound who says he has researched the subject 
exhaustively, to 'babysit' kids as they meet their parents in a stark 
ten by twelve foot room for the two hours they are allowed to be 
together for those months when they still hoped to be reunited.


The system is intended to separate children, a valuable commodity, from 
their parents.  Mandates to reunite children and parents are 
consistently ignored as children are processed further and further into 
the system. What then happens to the children varies, but is in all 
cases appalling.


Along with the system abuse of families parents attempting to work in 
the system re****t that FOIA requests on such routine matters as copies 
of the Oath of Office and bonds, required by the Constitution, for each 
judge or elected official or law enforcement officer, are not produced, 
despite repeated requests. Many ask, over and over again, why such 
requests should be met with silence and hostility.  Parents continue to 
struggle to regain custody of their children and to exact accountability 
from those who claim sovereign immunity as government employees from the 
impact of their acts on ordinary Americans.  The claim of sovereign 
immunity for those employed by government is, according to 
Constitutional experts such as not employed by government entirely 
without foundation.


The three families whose cases appear here each re****t that they will 
never stop fighting.  Each family is presently filing a civil rights 
suit against those involved in their several cases.  In light of 
yesterday's revelation on child-*** rings, operating across the United 
States but very present in their own areas of Florida, their questions 
are ever more anguished as they deal with the echoing emptiness of homes 
that once held the laughter of children.
 




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