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Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education

by The_Carpathia <writingken@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 19, 2008 at 07:01 AM

OH...you wanna make it personal...got it.  It's on.

On Jul 18, 4:08=A0pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> >> Not all "alternative certification programs" are alike. =A0Obama
refer=
s
> >> to HIGH-QUALITY programs, which necessarily excludes any program that
> >> lets someone like you into a classroom. =A0He also requires a 4-year
> >> teaching commitment. =A0That's a pretty high standard. =A0Teach for
> >> America has 75% turnover over 5 years, which is hardly good enough
for
> >>
Obama.http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_2003_Nov_24/ai_11=
0364129
>
> >Dude. =A0I am highly qualified,
>
> Bull****. =A0You are highly incompetent.
>
> Your posting have demonstrated that haven't got reading comprehension
> skills sufficient to teach YOURSELF to read, much less anyone else.
>

Of the two of us I am the ONLY one with Education coursework, teacher
testing, Education certification, and state recognition in education.
I am the ONLY one of us that the state declares "highly qualified" to
teach; yet, YOU think you have some air of authority...how?

> >right now, according to state records.
>
> Oh. =A0 You got your certificate, or are you still working on it?
>

I have (in my possession) a state certificate of eligibility that says
I am highly qualified and that once I am hired and complete the entry
program (that all teachers take in Hillsborough Co) I will have a 5
year certificate.  Do you have said certificate?

> >YOU, on the other hand, are a punk.
>
> Not hardly
>
> <Main Entry: 1punk =A0
> <Pronunciation: \'p??k\
> <Function: noun
> <Etymology: origin unknown
> <Date: 1596
> <1archaic : prostitute
> <2[probably partly from 3punk] : nonsense, foolishness
> <3 a: a young inexperienced person : beginner, novice; especially : a
> < young man b: a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian cslang : a
> < young man used as a homo***ual partner especially in a prison
> <4 a: punk rock b: a punk rock musician c: one who affects punk styles
>

"nonsense....foolishness...inexperienced...novice" sounds right to me
in the areas of Education.

>
> >I have a college degree,
>
> From Falwell U, which means nothing positive to anyone with common
> sense.
>
> I have a university degree from a respected institution, not merely an
> accredited one, and my degree was a coordinate major of astrophysics
> and liberal science. =A0And I earned somewhat over 5 years worth of
> college credits in 4 years, so I was technically qualified for a
> second bachelors in math or physics, though they would have been
> minimal qualifications not in accord with what the typical majors in
> those subjects took.
>

No matter how many times you lie, it remains that LU is recognized by
EVERY board of accreditation in every field it participates.  EVERY
single state accepts my degree, as well as every institution.  YOUR
school's graduate program would admit me with this degree, as I have
shown you, as well as every state's education department.  Your degree
gets no more respect at those education departments than mine, even
with your ego.  Further, I will undoubtedly have more history,
politics, and business courses than you would have...easily (none of
which came from LU..by the way) from my major BEFORE I switched to
religion.


> >19 hours of Education coursework,
>
> Yawn.
>
> We've heard what the right wing thinks of education coursework, and
> you haven't demonstrated on this forum that you learned anything.
>

All of those courses came from an NCATE and NEA approved education
program.  I am currently an NEA student member, due to that education
program...in which I scored highly and currently have a letter of
recommendation from my mentor, there.

> >have passed a general knowledge test,
>
> Yet you are a general know-nothing.
>

Have YOU passed a general knowledge teacher test?  No.

> >two subject knowledge tests (ABCTE and FL state), and a teacher
knowledg=
e
> >test that has been ruled harder than the one Praxis offers (only 40
> >percent pass the test).
>
> Yawn.
>
> I haven't taken them, and Praxis is NOT considered to be a difficult
> test, regardless of how many pass it.
>

Have YOU taken them...no.  Further, you just heard me say that only 40
percent pass the ABCTE test.

> I have taken the SAT (pre-recentering). =A0Wanna compare scores? =A0I am
> certainly better educated than when I took that test.
> I have take the National Merit Scholar****p Test, when it was a
> different test than the PSAT. =A0I scored in the top 3% in the country.
> I have taken a few IQ tests when I was a kid. =A0In the last one, I
> took, on entering high school, I apparently scored higher than anyone
> ever had in our district.
>
> >You just have an ego
>
> Not really. =A0But of I did, it would be well-earned.
>

You just rattled off a bunch of tests and scores that had nothing to
do with education certification and all to do with making yourself
look smart...but, you don't have an ego...right.

> >and an air of superiority to speak down to
>
> ... an idiot like you.
>
> My IQ would grant me that "superiority" if anyone cared. =A0
>

Spoken like a true Darwinian Socialist elitist.  No ego there...right?

> >Just so you know...also. =A0ABCTE (one of the many things that is
behind
> >me) just released the results of a review of their alumni. =A0A full 85
> >percent of their graduates that started teaching 3 years ago are STILL
> >there, three years later. =A0That beats the retention rates of most
> >schools and beats (by far) the national average of teacher retention
> >rates.
>
> Yawn.
>
> Let me know when there is an INDEPENDENT review. =A0Not that I care.
> Anyone who says you are qualified, has thereby invalidated themselves
> in my mind as an accrediting organization.

It was from an independent review by Mathmatica.  However, your
subjective dismissal of colleges, accreditation boards, states, and
organizations shows you have lost your objectivity and are just
engaged in a personal vendetta....I must have really offended you,
somewhere.  I apologize.

Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-17 09:55:06 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-17 15:09:15 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Wide Eyed in Wonder <k  2008-07-18 06:11:25 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-18 17:08:24 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-19 07:01:39 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-19 15:47:25 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Wide Eyed in Wonder <k  2008-07-20 05:37:58 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
"Larry Hewitt"   2008-07-20 11:40:45 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-21 15:16:13 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-24 05:04:33 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-24 10:00:24 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-24 05:28:43 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-24 10:23:41 

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