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Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education

by Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 19, 2008 at 03:47 PM

The_Carpathia <writingken@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>OH...you wanna make it personal...got it.  It's on.

It has been personal with you from your very first post.  You think
people care about your personal opinions, and no one does.

>> >Dude.  I am highly qualified,
>>
>> Bull****.  You are highly incompetent.
>>
>> Your posting have demonstrated that haven't got reading comprehension
>> skills sufficient to teach YOURSELF to read, much less anyone else.
>
>Of the two of us I am the ONLY one with Education coursework, teacher
>testing, Education certification, and state recognition in education.

Your postings have demonstrated that haven't got reading comprehension
skills sufficient to teach YOURSELF to read, much less anyone else.

>I am the ONLY one of us that the state declares "highly qualified" to
teach

Your postings have demonstrated that haven't got reading comprehension
skills sufficient to teach YOURSELF to read, much less anyone else.

>yet, YOU think you have some air of authority...how?

You keep using that "A" word and I keep telling you that I have no
authority, want no authority, and need no authority.

I have the "R" word - respect from other posters, and you don't have
it, and you can't get it, and you are overweeningly jealous.

I don't want anything more than that (and I don't really *need* even
that, though I enjoy it)

>> >right now, according to state records.
>>
>> Oh.   You got your certificate, or are you still working on it?
>
>I have (in my possession) a state certificate of eligibility that says
>I am highly qualified and that once I am hired

IF you are hired.  We can still hope the school district has sense.

>and complete the entry program

IF you complete it, without getting yourself into hot water with your
silly ideas and misunderstandings.

>(that all teachers take in Hillsborough Co) I will have a 5
>year certificate.  Do you have said certificate?

No (and neither do you).  And the difference is that I neither want
one nor need one.

>> >YOU, on the other hand, are a punk.
>>
>> Not hardly
>>
>> <Main Entry: 1punk  
>> <Pronunciation: \'p??k\
>> <Function: noun
>> <Etymology: origin unknown
>> <Date: 1596
>> <1archaic : prostitute
>> <2[probably partly from 3punk] : nonsense, foolishness
>> <3 a: a young inexperienced person : beginner, novice; especially : a
>> < young man b: a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian cslang : a
>> < young man used as a homo***ual partner especially in a prison
>> <4 a: punk rock b: a punk rock musician c: one who affects punk styles
>
>"nonsense....foolishness...inexperienced...novice" sounds right to me
>in the areas of Education.

Other people, including teachers, find my postings not to be nonsense
or foolishness, and have found yours to be the epitome of same.

I am not young, and have raised two kids to adulthood, so I am hardly
inexperienced.  Since you haven't actually taught, and have only been
quasi-trained (and haven't finished even that), you are in fact a
novice and inexperienced.

>> >I have a college degree,
>>
>> From Falwell U, which means nothing positive to anyone with common
>> sense.
>
>No matter how many times you lie, it remains that LU is recognized by
>EVERY board of accreditation in every field it participates. 

I don't give a damn.  It isn't recognized as a real university by real
people of education and intelligence.

>EVERY single state accepts my degree, as well as every institution.

I don't.  I laugh at your degree, and I laugh at you, because you
display less education than my two kids, neither of whom has finished
a year of college.

>YOUR school's graduate program would admit me with this degree,

I doubt it.

My own school gave me a degree, and I didn't try to get into the grad
program because I knew that wasn't good enough.  3.5 average or higher
was the ticket and no low grades in any course related to my major.

>Your degree gets no more respect at those education departments than
mine, 

Actually, it probably would, since mine is in the sciences, and there
are shortages in science education.

>even with your ego. 

You are the guy with the ego, and a bruised one at that, not me.

>Further, I will undoubtedly have more history,
>politics, and business courses than you would have.

Possibly, but you didn't learn anything in them.

>> >19 hours of Education coursework,
>>
>> Yawn.
>>
>> We've heard what the right wing thinks of education coursework, and
>> you haven't demonstrated on this forum that you learned anything.
>
>All of those courses came from an NCATE and NEA approved education
>program.

We've heard what the right wing thinks of education coursework, and
you haven't demonstrated on this forum that you learned anything.

>I am currently an NEA student member, due to that education
>program.

There are 3 million people who can claim at least that, and probably
all of them are smarter that you.

>...in which I scored highly and currently have a letter of
>recommendation from my mentor, there.

Yawn.

>> >have passed a general knowledge test,
>>
>> Yet you are a general know-nothing.
>
>Have YOU passed a general knowledge teacher test?  No.

I haven't needed to do so, and my top percentile scores on earlier
testing indicate that I wouldn't have the slightest trouble.

>Have YOU taken them...no.  Further, you just heard me say that only 40
>percent pass the ABCTE test.

The only people who take the damned test are those who aren't willing
to do the normal route to a credential.  Just because a bunch of
losers like you take the test, and most of them fail, does not make
the test a difficult one.

>You just rattled off a bunch of tests and scores that had nothing to
>do with education certification 

So?  Nobody cares about yours, either (which was my point).  In the
test of real life posting in these newsgroups, you are an utter
failure.

>and all to do with making yourself look smart..

Actually, those tests are mostly about other people deciding whether
one *IS* smart, and I did rather well at it.  But I don't claim that
those tests make me more qualified than some. And I don't claim to be
an "authority"

>but, you don't have an ego...right.

Well, any Freudian would say that we all have egos.

But if my ego was especially im****tant, I wouldn't be exercising it on
Usenet which is probably the most hazardous place on earth for an ego.

>> >and an air of superiority to speak down to
>>
>> ... an idiot like you.
>>
>> My IQ would grant me that "superiority" if anyone cared.  
>
>Spoken like a true Darwinian Socialist elitist.

I have no idea how any of those three adjectives have anything to do
with anything I said.

And I most certainly am NOT an elitist or a Social Darwinist (I have
no idea what a Darwinian Socialist would be).

>No ego there...right?

Not in anything I wrote.  I'm merely explaining why your so-called
credentials are meaningless to me, and incidentally inviting you to
offer your scores on some test we both have taken, if you really feel
a need to compare yourself with me.

>> Let me know when there is an INDEPENDENT review.  Not that I care.
>> Anyone who says you are qualified, has thereby invalidated themselves
>> in my mind as an accrediting organization.
>
>It was from an independent review by Mathmatica.  However, your
>subjective dismissal of colleges, accreditation boards, states, and
>organizations shows you have lost your objectivity and are just
>engaged in a personal vendetta....I must have really offended you,
>somewhere.

Every time you post nonsense is an offense to those of us who can
think and read (though cary finds it entertaining).

>I apologize.

Go ye and sin no more.

lojbab
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Lojban language www.lojban.org
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-17 09:55:06 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-17 15:09:15 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Wide Eyed in Wonder <k  2008-07-18 06:11:25 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-18 17:08:24 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-19 07:01:39 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-19 15:47:25 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Wide Eyed in Wonder <k  2008-07-20 05:37:58 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
"Larry Hewitt"   2008-07-20 11:40:45 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-21 15:16:13 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-24 05:04:33 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-24 10:00:24 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
The_Carpathia <writing  2008-07-24 05:28:43 
Re: AGREEMENT of McCain and Obama on Education
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-24 10:23:41 

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