"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jul 19, 2:47 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> The_Carpathia <writing...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >OH...you wanna make it personal...got it. It's on.
>
> It has been personal with you from your very first post. You think
> people care about your personal opinions, and no one does.
>
> >> >Dude. I am highly qualified,
>
> >> Bull****. You are highly incompetent.
>
> >> Your posting have demonstrated that haven't got reading comprehension
> >> skills sufficient to teach YOURSELF to read, much less anyone else.
>
> >Of the two of us I am the ONLY one with Education coursework, teacher
> >testing, Education certification, and state recognition in education.
>
> Your postings have demonstrated that haven't got reading comprehension
> skills sufficient to teach YOURSELF to read, much less anyone else.
>
Again, I am the only one with Education coursework, teacher testing,
Education certification, and state recognition in education. These
are required to have any authority in education, unless you have some
experience in the field. YOU have none of the above, yet you feel
authority to tell everyone how the education system should be...ego.
Absolutely a lie.
I have all that course work, and I have the expereince in the classroom
that
you lack. Anfdd I ma not an authority.
OTOHthe members of my school board, all of whom are lelected official and
none of whom have any education in education, _have_ authority in
education.
My local college of eduation has a small gorup of professors who , through
research and inestogation, are , at least locally, authorities in early
childhood education.
YOU are no more than a novice wannabe who knows just enough to be
dangerous.
Larry
> >I am the ONLY one of us that the state declares "highly qualified" to
> >teach
>
> Your postings have demonstrated that haven't got reading comprehension
> skills sufficient to teach YOURSELF to read, much less anyone else.
>
I am still the only one that the state declares "highly qualified" to
teach.
> >yet, YOU think you have some air of authority...how?
>
> You keep using that "A" word and I keep telling you that I have no
> authority, want no authority, and need no authority.
I'm glad you realize you are just talking out of your ass.
>
> >> >right now, according to state records.
>
> >> Oh. You got your certificate, or are you still working on it?
>
> >I have (in my possession) a state certificate of eligibility that says
> >I am highly qualified and that once I am hired
>
> IF you are hired. We can still hope the school district has sense.
>
And...of course...if they hire me THEY are wrong and not you...right
(ego)? You are so predictable.
> >and complete the entry program
>
> IF you complete it, without getting yourself into hot water with your
> silly ideas and misunderstandings.
>
Where in my job would there be place to mention anything that I am
saying to you here? It's a different audience. There I'll be
teaching Math and English, not politics, religion, or how big of an
ass you are.
> >(that all teachers take in Hillsborough Co) I will have a 5
> >year certificate. Do you have said certificate?
>
> No (and neither do you). And the difference is that I neither want
> one nor need one.
>
....to speak out of your ass...correct.
>
>
> >> >YOU, on the other hand, are a punk.
>
> >> Not hardly
>
> >> <Main Entry: 1punk
> >> <Pronunciation: \'p??k\
> >> <Function: noun
> >> <Etymology: origin unknown
> >> <Date: 1596
> >> <1archaic : prostitute
> >> <2[probably partly from 3punk] : nonsense, foolishness
> >> <3 a: a young inexperienced person : beginner, novice; especially : a
> >> < young man b: a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian cslang :
a
> >> < young man used as a homo***ual partner especially in a prison
> >> <4 a: punk rock b: a punk rock musician c: one who affects punk
styles
>
> >"nonsense....foolishness...inexperienced...novice" sounds right to me
> >in the areas of Education.
>
> Other people, including teachers, find my postings not to be nonsense
> or foolishness, and have found yours to be the epitome of same.
>
> I am not young, and have raised two kids to adulthood, so I am hardly
> inexperienced. Since you haven't actually taught, and have only been
> quasi-trained (and haven't finished even that), you are in fact a
> novice and inexperienced.
>
Yet...you sent them to school and didn't teach them their
schoolwork...right? Meanwhile, I taught an ADHD child for 6 years in
my house that got straight A's upon entry to the public school
system. Also, I finished all the training that I need for
certification and have the statement of eligibility to show it.
Again...if we are using training as a basis of reference, I am the
only one of the two of us that have Education courses, testings, and
state recognition.
> >> >I have a college degree,
>
> >> From Falwell U, which means nothing positive to anyone with common
> >> sense.
>
> >No matter how many times you lie, it remains that LU is recognized by
> >EVERY board of accreditation in every field it participates.
>
> I don't give a damn. It isn't recognized as a real university by real
> people of education and intelligence.
>
That would be you, alone...apparently, since every accreditation board
and state recognizes it.
> >EVERY single state accepts my degree, as well as every institution.
>
> I don't. I laugh at your degree, and I laugh at you, because you
> display less education than my two kids, neither of whom has finished
> a year of college.
>
Bingo. YOU...it's all about you.
> >YOUR school's graduate program would admit me with this degree,
>
> I doubt it.
>
> My own school gave me a degree, and I didn't try to get into the grad
> program because I knew that wasn't good enough. 3.5 average or higher
> was the ticket and no low grades in any course related to my major.
>
I already showed you the school admission info that shows they accept
LU. Go back and read it.
> >Your degree gets no more respect at those education departments than
> >mine,
>
> Actually, it probably would, since mine is in the sciences, and there
> are shortages in science education.
>
There are also shortages in other fields, such as elementary
education. Elementary education requires diverse coursework...which
of the two of us, I have. What is it with science grads that they
think they are god....ego.
> >even with your ego.
>
> You are the guy with the ego, and a bruised one at that, not me.
>
You are speaking of yourself...right. I posted an article about
education issues of McCain and Obama and said nothing about you.
However, you jumped on here and attacked me personally. Ego.
> >Further, I will undoubtedly have more history,
> >politics, and business courses than you would have.
>
> Possibly, but you didn't learn anything in them.
>
Says the one with less coursework.
> >> >19 hours of Education coursework,
>
> >> Yawn.
>
> >> We've heard what the right wing thinks of education coursework, and
> >> you haven't demonstrated on this forum that you learned anything.
>
> >All of those courses came from an NCATE and NEA approved education
> >program.
>
> We've heard what the right wing thinks of education coursework, and
> you haven't demonstrated on this forum that you learned anything.
>
So, now, NEA is right wing? Your list of the conservative conspiracy
just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
> >I am currently an NEA student member, due to that education
> >program.
>
> There are 3 million people who can claim at least that, and probably
> all of them are smarter that you.
>
Are you among them...no.
> >...in which I scored highly and currently have a letter of
> >recommendation from my mentor, there.
>
> Yawn.
>
> >> >have passed a general knowledge test,
>
> >> Yet you are a general know-nothing.
>
> >Have YOU passed a general knowledge teacher test? No.
>
> I haven't needed to do so, and my top percentile scores on earlier
> testing indicate that I wouldn't have the slightest trouble.
>
Needed to do so for what. Think about it. You said..."I haven't
needed to." In teaching, you DO need to. Why do you think they
require testing in order to enter teaching?
> >Have YOU taken them...no. Further, you just heard me say that only 40
> >percent pass the ABCTE test.
>
> The only people who take the damned test are those who aren't willing
> to do the normal route to a credential. Just because a bunch of
> losers like you take the test, and most of them fail, does not make
> the test a difficult one.
>
Really. A bunch of losers?
....from a 2007 survey of candidates....
M.A. 220
M.Ed. 105
M.S. 265
M.B.A. 153
Ed.D. 10
J.D. 50
M.D. 10
Ph.D. 78
I guess someone needs to tell those Masters degree, J.D. degree,a nd
Ph.D. holders that they are stupid losers.
Also, from the ABCTE site...
* 95% of principals rated our teachers to be as effective or more
effective than their peers.
* 100% of principals surveyed would be willing to hire an ABCTE-
certified teacher.
* 24% of ABCTE candidates are minorities and 32% are pursuing
certification in math and science.
* Pass****t to Teaching is a rigorous certification program where
only 40% of candidates complete the program.
* ABCTE teacher retention is 93% over the first two years compared
to 84% nationwide.
> >You just rattled off a bunch of tests and scores that had nothing to
> >do with education certification
>
> So? Nobody cares about yours, either (which was my point). In the
> test of real life posting in these newsgroups, you are an utter
> failure.
>
You fail to understand authority, again. Authority is when those in
the industry give you accreditation to do what you do. I have the
authority to teach, you do not. I have authority among churches to
preach (separately), which you do not. You couldn't get a job in
either a church or a school (without completing a certification
method...like I have). Thus, among those that matters, my credentials
is accepted as satisfying, while yours are deficient.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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