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Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy)

by "NoSpam" <fake@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM

"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> "NoSpam" <fake@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:YoMUj.2093$ah4.1453@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:e9e4d$4822adde$83b4502b$6357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Just out of idle interest, how many of the people who claim to be 
>>> so mortally offended by the religious activities on the LDS are 
>>> actively using the IGI and the other genealogical sources provided 
>>> by the LDS, depsite the fact that the main reason for this 
>>> enormous genealogical effort is in order that their ancestors can 
>>> be retrospectively "baptised"?
>>
>> That's just plain stupid said by someone who knows nothing about 
>> the subject. I'm an atheist and my hobby is genealogy. The LDS does 
>> gemology for your stated reason but it's clear that you have never 
>> stepped foot in one of their libraries. Their libraries are staffed 
>> by lds members and they are strictly forbidden to say anything 
>> about their religion. It looks like a secular reference library. It 
>> also happens to be the best in the world and the staff are very 
>> helpful.
>
> So how does that make my question stupid? I didn't mention their 
> staff. It is a simple question. How many of the folk who spend all 
> their time complaining about the LDS use their facilities?
> Do read messages carefully before attacking or name-calling.
>
>>>
>>> And how many are aware that any 19th century ancestor can have a 
>>> LOT of descendants, all of whom have equal rights?
>>> Lesley Robertson
>>
>> Are you saying that someone living in Nazi Germany has the same 
>> rights as you do? See how stupid you sound?
>
> Where did I mention Germany? What is this obsession with the Nazis? 
> If you want opressed people to refer to, there's plenty of modern 
> examples, but it's not relevant to what I said.
>
> My point is that ancestor A from 1850 could have had 10 kids, some 
> of whom stayed home, some of whom crossed the ocean. It's easily 
> possible that the descendants of those kids now number hundreds if 
> not thousands, some of whom took different turns in their religious 
> beliefs, which makes the picture of someone saying "Nobody is making 
> MY ancestors into members of any faith" pretty silly. Someone else 
> from another faith, or none, could be sitting parroting the same 
> sentiment about the same ancestor...  And they both have an equal 
> right to do so. It's a bit like kids squabbling over a toy - 
> "They're MY ancestors!" No they're MY ancestors!".
>
> As I said, it's a good idea to read and understand what's being said 
> before attacking. Do tell me if you still don't understand and I'll 
> see if I can find simpler words.
> Lesley Robertson

It would be a lot easier for you to engage your brain before you 
opened your mouth.
 




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Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
clifto <clifto@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 09:43:08 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 02:57:41 
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"the_verminator@[EMA  2008-05-06 20:52:38 
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"Bruce S" <b  2008-05-06 21:13:44 
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Daniel <dxmm@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 21:39:50 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-15 07:35:33 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 09:25:44 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-15 21:32:40 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-16 07:31:24 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 10:09:17 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-16 18:49:37 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-16 20:20:51 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-17 18:57:32 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-16 21:16:08 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-16 20:44:17 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-16 23:41:13 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-17 13:40:17 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-17 19:01:55 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-17 22:07:51 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-20 10:46:31 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-20 18:08:24 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 14:47:18 
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"Mark Fields" &  2008-05-20 19:57:23 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-20 19:22:40 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-21 10:58:21 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-20 02:01:37 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-20 07:23:40 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 05:59:13 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-07 09:30:51 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-07 10:51:38 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-11 12:59:00 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Daniel <dxmm@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 21:48:05 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-15 14:24:53 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 09:29:07 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 15:59:21 
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Kay Robinson <Kay_Robi  2008-05-07 09:57:13 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-07 05:10:18 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-07 08:13:41 
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GeorgeD <Not@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 12:00:30 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 07:27:53 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-07 15:46:04 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 09:26:34 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 12:52:47 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 18:09:05 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 19:56:10 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 20:29:27 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:08:05 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 21:10:48 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:41:42 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-08 19:30:37 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 20:09:07 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:28:09 
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"D. Stussy" <  2008-05-07 18:53:35 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 20:50:42 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:51:11 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 00:59:03 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-09 14:40:29 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:18:40 
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"D. Stussy" <  2008-05-07 19:43:59 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:57:27 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"D. Stussy" <  2008-05-07 20:56:17 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 20:25:19 
As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:38:06 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-08 11:14:16 
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"NoSpam" <fa  2008-05-08 16:54:31 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-09 09:59:01 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"NoSpam" <fa  2008-05-09 10:35:31 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-11 12:48:56 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 00:53:33 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-09 08:56:45 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 00:42:47 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 09:30:45 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-09 18:53:11 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-11 13:51:31 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-11 15:53:28 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-11 17:05:01 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-15 08:36:29 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:32:15 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-14 21:20:24 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-14 16:41:53 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 20:27:57 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-14 16:38:50 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-14 13:46:49 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-14 08:04:33 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-14 08:37:09 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-08 11:05:37 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-13 15:06:53 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 12:11:10 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 20:35:39 
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Charles Ellson <charle  2008-05-14 02:04:42 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 22:27:10 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-15 08:31:56 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
clifto <clifto@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 16:26:45 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-07 18:52:12 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:20:38 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 07:53:02 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:49:23 
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William Bojanowski <bo  2008-05-08 11:26:35 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:51:58 
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William Bojanowski <bo  2008-05-09 12:30:19 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-13 07:50:55 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 08:27:25 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 07:10:40 
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"Dr. Grok" <  2008-05-07 23:52:07 
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"the_verminator@[EMA  2008-05-07 18:17:45 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-11 16:15:22 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 12:30:21 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-11 18:10:05 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 20:19:28 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-13 03:31:54 
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myths@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 05:13:20 
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Mary_Gordon@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 15:49:56 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-12 10:10:01 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-13 15:30:16 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Jaqian <jaqian@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 00:59:21 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-12 09:18:47 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-12 12:02:12 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 08:56:31 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-12 11:35:59 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 14:36:51 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-12 17:52:26 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Sir Creep <sircreep@[E  2008-05-12 05:44:57 
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Sir Creep <sircreep@[E  2008-05-12 05:52:02 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-12 18:20:08 
Re: As a matter of interest (was Re: Vatican trying to avoid bap
"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 20:20:00 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
Mary_Gordon@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 10:20:19 
Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 07:05:27 

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