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Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy

by singhals <singhals@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 02:40 PM

JJ206 wrote:

> Bruce Remick wrote:
> 
>> "Tony H." <punkyNOSP*M@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:8Oidnbblw9L-_b_VnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>> D. Stussy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find it offensive and improper for a member of any religion to 
>>>> attempt to
>>>> impose his views on a person not of that same religion (or open to
it).
>>>> Where the dead are concerned, they already have been or will never 
>>>> be part
>>>> of that religion, so it is offensive to attempt to retroactively 
>>>> impose the
>>>> view.  It's not meaningless.
>>>>
>>>> In the U.S., one's right to practice a religion stops where it is in
>>>> conflict with someone else's right to do the same.  Proxy baptisms 
>>>> overstep
>>>> that right.  LDS members can baptize their own as LDS all they want, 
>>>> but
>>>> they have no right to do that to non-church members - because that
>>>> interferes with the non-members' right to practice and enjoy their
own
>>>> religion.
>>>>
>>>> In parallel, should we allow the radical muslim to practice what his
>>>> religion dictates - kill infidels and get 72 virgins in heaven?  
>>>> Hell no!
>>>> LDS members may not be killing people, but it is imposition just the 
>>>> same.
>>
>>
>> Where's the imposition?  You likely didn't even know what they were 
>> doing until you read about it.
> 
> 
> Salt Lake City is in a desert ! Baptizing little pieces of paper is a 
> waste of water and time they could be scanning do***ents and census 
> pages...etc... *smile* Now I'm curious if the proxy baptisms are a paid
> job, salary, or charity volunteer work someone does ?
> 
> I love threads like this.
> 
> Jonathan M.

If they weren't wi****ng to do the proxy baptisms, they'd 
have no _reason_ to want to "waste" their tithes on scanning 
old do***ents, building the indexes and search engines and 
sup****ting the server farms.  I mean, the other 
denominations all had their chance to pick up the historical 
slack there, and passed?  (g)

Those who serve as the proxies are generally family members 
doing their religious duty.  The proxies who aren't family 
members are devout volunteers assigned to the task.

Those who have a personal knowledge of Temple-work may 
correct that to their satisfaction.  Not being Mormon, all I 
know is what I'm told.

Cheryl
 




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Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
clifto <clifto@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 09:43:08 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 02:57:41 
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"the_verminator@[EMA  2008-05-06 20:52:38 
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"Bruce S" <b  2008-05-06 21:13:44 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-17 22:07:51 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-11 12:59:00 
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Daniel <dxmm@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 21:48:05 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 15:59:21 
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Kay Robinson <Kay_Robi  2008-05-07 09:57:13 
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GeorgeD <Not@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 12:00:30 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-07 15:46:04 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 09:26:34 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 12:52:47 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 18:09:05 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 19:56:10 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 20:29:27 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:08:05 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:41:42 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-08 19:30:37 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 20:09:07 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:28:09 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:51:11 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 00:59:03 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:18:40 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:57:27 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 20:25:19 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 00:53:33 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-09 08:56:45 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-11 17:05:01 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-14 21:20:24 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-14 16:41:53 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-14 08:37:09 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-08 11:05:37 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 20:35:39 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 22:27:10 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-15 08:31:56 
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clifto <clifto@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 16:26:45 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-07 18:52:12 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:20:38 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 07:53:02 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:49:23 
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William Bojanowski <bo  2008-05-08 11:26:35 
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William Bojanowski <bo  2008-05-09 12:30:19 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 08:27:25 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-11 16:15:22 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 12:30:21 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-11 18:10:05 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 20:19:28 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-13 03:31:54 
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myths@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 05:13:20 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-13 15:30:16 
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Jaqian <jaqian@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 00:59:21 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 08:56:31 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-12 11:35:59 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 14:36:51 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-12 17:52:26 
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Sir Creep <sircreep@[E  2008-05-12 05:44:57 
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Sir Creep <sircreep@[E  2008-05-12 05:52:02 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-12 18:20:08 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 20:20:00 
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Mary_Gordon@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 10:20:19 
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