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Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy

by Daniel <dxmm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 09:48 PM

Lesley Robertson wrote:
> "Charani" <SGBNOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mail2genes.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:48216732$0$26084$db0fefd9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 05:59:13 GMT, Carole Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Seriously, this is a piece of paper...they can't actually "baptize"
>>> someone long dead...it is really meaningless to deceased ancestors....
>> Yes, it is meaningless to those already deceased but I agree with
>> Bruce.  I find it offensive and insulting to the memories of those who
>> have gone before too (and I have a Mormon cousin).
>>
>> I think the LDS beliefs will always be sit extremely uncomfortably
>> with those who don't follow those beliefs.
> 
> The way it was explained to me was that if the ceremony is held, this
has 
> the result that baptism and church member****p are OFFERED to people in
the 
> afterlife. There's no compulsion just because a descendant has arranged
the 
> process. Now, assuming for a moment that there IS an afterlife, I think
that 
> my ancestors would be perfectly capable of choosing for themselves, and 
> standing up for their own beliefs. 
> 

Lesley, I think you might be missing an im****tant fact ...... as I read 
the story, we're not talking just about descendant signing up their 
ancestors, we're talking about some Tom, Dick or Harry signing up anyone 
and everyone they can!!

Daniel
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Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy
clifto <clifto@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 09:43:08 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 02:57:41 
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"the_verminator@[EMA  2008-05-06 20:52:38 
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"Bruce S" <b  2008-05-06 21:13:44 
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Daniel <dxmm@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 21:39:50 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-15 07:35:33 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 09:25:44 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-15 21:32:40 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-16 07:31:24 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 10:09:17 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-16 18:49:37 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-16 20:20:51 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-17 18:57:32 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-16 21:16:08 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-16 20:44:17 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-16 23:41:13 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-17 13:40:17 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-17 19:01:55 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-17 22:07:51 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-20 10:46:31 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-20 18:08:24 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 14:47:18 
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"Mark Fields" &  2008-05-20 19:57:23 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-20 19:22:40 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-21 10:58:21 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-20 02:01:37 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 05:59:13 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-07 09:30:51 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-07 10:51:38 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-11 12:59:00 
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Daniel <dxmm@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 21:48:05 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-15 14:24:53 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 09:29:07 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 15:59:21 
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Kay Robinson <Kay_Robi  2008-05-07 09:57:13 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-07 05:10:18 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-07 08:13:41 
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GeorgeD <Not@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 12:00:30 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 07:27:53 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-07 15:46:04 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 09:26:34 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 12:52:47 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 18:09:05 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 19:56:10 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 20:29:27 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:08:05 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 21:10:48 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:41:42 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-08 19:30:37 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 20:09:07 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:28:09 
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"D. Stussy" <  2008-05-07 18:53:35 
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"Tony H." <p  2008-05-07 20:50:42 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:51:11 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 00:59:03 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-09 14:40:29 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:18:40 
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"D. Stussy" <  2008-05-07 19:43:59 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-07 22:57:27 
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"D. Stussy" <  2008-05-07 20:56:17 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 20:25:19 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:38:06 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-08 11:14:16 
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"NoSpam" <fa  2008-05-08 16:54:31 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-09 09:59:01 
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"NoSpam" <fa  2008-05-09 10:35:31 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-11 12:48:56 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 00:53:33 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-09 08:56:45 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 00:42:47 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 09:30:45 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-09 18:53:11 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-11 13:51:31 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-11 15:53:28 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-11 17:05:01 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-15 08:36:29 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:32:15 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-14 21:20:24 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-14 16:41:53 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 20:27:57 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-14 16:38:50 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-14 13:46:49 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-14 08:04:33 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-14 08:37:09 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-08 11:05:37 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-13 15:06:53 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 12:11:10 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 20:35:39 
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Charles Ellson <charle  2008-05-14 02:04:42 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 22:27:10 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-15 08:31:56 
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clifto <clifto@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 16:26:45 
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Brian <drmorrisnospam@  2008-05-07 18:52:12 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-08 09:20:38 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-08 07:53:02 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:49:23 
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William Bojanowski <bo  2008-05-08 11:26:35 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-08 18:51:58 
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William Bojanowski <bo  2008-05-09 12:30:19 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-13 07:50:55 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-13 08:27:25 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-13 07:10:40 
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"Dr. Grok" <  2008-05-07 23:52:07 
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"the_verminator@[EMA  2008-05-07 18:17:45 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-11 16:15:22 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 12:30:21 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-11 18:10:05 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-11 20:19:28 
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carolea7@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-13 03:31:54 
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myths@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 05:13:20 
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Mary_Gordon@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 15:49:56 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-12 10:10:01 
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"Henry Brownlee"  2008-05-13 15:30:16 
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Jaqian <jaqian@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 00:59:21 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-12 09:18:47 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-12 12:02:12 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 08:56:31 
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singhals <singhals@[EM  2008-05-12 11:35:59 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 14:36:51 
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"Lesley Robertson&qu  2008-05-12 17:52:26 
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Sir Creep <sircreep@[E  2008-05-12 05:44:57 
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Sir Creep <sircreep@[E  2008-05-12 05:52:02 
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Graeme Wall <Graeme@[E  2008-05-12 18:20:08 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-12 20:20:00 
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Mary_Gordon@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 10:20:19 
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