Re: Vatican trying to avoid baptism by proxy

"Daniel" <dxmm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Lesley Robertson wrote:
>> "Charani" <SGBNOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 05:59:13 GMT, Carole Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seriously, this is a piece of paper...they can't actually "baptize"
>>>> someone long dead...it is really meaningless to deceased
ancestors....
>>> Yes, it is meaningless to those already deceased but I agree with
>>> Bruce.  I find it offensive and insulting to the memories of those who
>>> have gone before too (and I have a Mormon cousin).
>>>
>>> I think the LDS beliefs will always be sit extremely uncomfortably
>>> with those who don't follow those beliefs.
>>
>> The way it was explained to me was that if the ceremony is held, this
has 
>> the result that baptism and church member****p are OFFERED to people in 
>> the afterlife. There's no compulsion just because a descendant has 
>> arranged the process. Now, assuming for a moment that there IS an 
>> afterlife, I think that my ancestors would be perfectly capable of 
>> choosing for themselves, and standing up for their own beliefs.
>
> Lesley, I think you might be missing an im****tant fact ...... as I read 
> the story, we're not talking just about descendant signing up their 
> ancestors, we're talking about some Tom, Dick or Harry signing up anyone

> and everyone they can!!
>

No, you're missing my point.  They can't just sign people up as members, 
they can't make anybody, alive or dead, be members. All they can do is get

dead people onto a list to be offered member****p which can be refused. If 
there is an afterlife, I'm sure that my ancestors are quite capable of 
deciding for themselves. If there isn't, it means nothing.
Lesley Robertson
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