Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Education > Language Latin > When poets were...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 1 of 7 Topic 3333 of 3503
Post > Topic >>

When poets were stars

by "Ed Cryer" <ed@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 13, 2008 at 07:27 PM

Iamque opus exegi, quod nec Iovis ira nec ignis
nec poterit ferrum nec edax abolere vetustas.
cum volet, illa dies, quae nil nisi cor****is huius
ius habet, incerti spatium mihi finiat aevi:
parte tamen meliore mei super alta perennis
astra ferar, nomenque erit indelebile nostrum,
quaque patet domitis Romana potentia terris,
ore legar populi, perque omnia saecula fama,
siquid habent veri vatum praesagia, vivam.

 (And now the work is done, that Jupiter's anger, fire or sword cannot 
erase, nor the gnawing tooth of time. Let that day, that only has power 
over my body, end, when it will, my uncertain span of years: yet the 
best part of me will be borne, immortal, beyond the distant stars. 
Wherever Rome's influence extends, over the lands it has civilised, I 
will be spoken, on people's lips: and, famous through all the ages, if 
there is truth in poet's prophecies, -vivam - I shall live.)

Ed

P.S. The translation was taken from Perseus. I'm struck by "quaque patet 
domitis Romana potentia terris," translated by "Wherever Rome's 
influence extends, over the lands it has civilised".
"Domitis" = civilised? I think we'd opt for "mastered". But there's 
something here that's reflected in Vergil's comment on Roman grandeur, 
in the Aeneid;
"tu regere imperio populos, Romane, memento
(hae tibi erunt artes), pacique imponere morem,
parcere subiectis et debellare superbos."
(Do thou remember, Romans, to rule the peoples (such will be your 
talents), and impose the fa****on of peace, to spare the beaten and bring 
down the proud)
(my translation)

It's just completely ****d and undisguised imperialism; no hint of 
veiling it with any kind of hypocritical altruism; just bring the 
barbarian buggers to heel!
 




 7 Posts in Topic:
When poets were stars
"Ed Cryer" <  2008-03-13 19:27:02 
Re: When poets were stars
Alastor <rossmcp@[EMAI  2008-03-18 17:24:53 
Re: When poets were stars
Alastor <rossmcp@[EMAI  2008-03-19 00:21:24 
Re: When poets were stars
"Ed Cryer" <  2008-03-19 17:22:13 
Re: When poets were stars
"Nicole McDonald&quo  2008-03-19 18:47:12 
Re: When poets were stars
"Ed Cryer" <  2008-03-20 12:40:37 
Re: When poets were stars
Alastor <rossmcp@[EMAI  2008-03-20 18:07:53 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan12V112 Wed Jul 9 0:33:24 CDT 2008.