Re: Please Help with Quotation Search

"B. T. Raven" <nihil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Ed Cryer wrote:
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>> "Alastor" <rossmcp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Yes, the quote could well be relevant to Augustine, whose lapses and
>>> reawakenings could be described as ending where he began; yes that's
>>> well spotted by you. All the same, how is it that that particular 
>>> ode
>>> has been in your mind waiting for an op****tunity to emerge? I'm 
>>> being
>>> impertinent of course but an interest in literature is always an
>>> interest in humanity and I can't help but be curious. Or maybe you
>>> know Horace inside out, cover to cover, and can find any quote to 
>>> suit
>>> the occasion.
>>
>> I've read Augustine's Confessions from cover to cover. That man 
>> speaks from the heart across the centuries and hits home. Not with 
>> his Christianity; more with his neo-Platonism.
>>
>> I'll recommend two passages. One about stealing apples from an 
>> orchard when he was a kid; and his later meditations on guilt.
>
> Weren't they pears instead of apples?
>
> ;-)
>
> Eduardus

Right. Pardon me. Mea culpa.
This is the Latin;
arbor erat pirus in vicinia nostrae vineae pomis onusta

This got me thinking that an "apple tree" would be a wrong place to sin 
under (in or on) because of Adam and Eve in Eden. So I looked up the 
Genesis lines and couldn't see any specific fruit at all there;
de fructu vero ligni quod est in medio paradisi

The "tree" is a "lignum" with "fructus".

Ed