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Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish

by Frances Kemmish <fkemmish@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 17, 2007 at 06:57 PM

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> On 2007-09-07 19:27:58 +0200, Frances Kemmish <fkemmish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> said:
> 
>> [ ... ]
> 
> 
>> As it happens, on Wednesday evening I was at a reception in New York 
>> for alumni of the University of Birmingham. One of the guests of 
>> honour was Paul Nurse, who was a student at the same time that I was 
>> (although I never met him then). He mentioned the matriculation 
>> requirements of the time, which included a pass at O-Level in a 
>> foreign language. He failed the exam six times, but the head of the 
>> department to which he'd applied went to the University Senate, and 
>> got a special dispensation for him to matriculate without that 
>> requirement, so long as he took language cl***** in the French 
>> department during his first year as an undergraduate.
>>
> Interesting. I hadn't reaized (or I had completely forgotten) that Paul 
> Nurse graduated from Birmingham in biochemistry. If he had graduated a 
> year later or if I had arrived there as a lecturer a year earlier I'd be

> able to claim to have taught a winner of the Nobel Prize, but we just 
> missed overlapping: he graduated in July 1970 and I started in October 
> 1970. Pity.
> 

He seemed like a very pleasant person, as well as a very intelligent and 
articulate man. I didn't have much oip****tunity to speak to him, but my 
husband felt compelled to defend the honour of the French Department 
(not something he felt any inclination to do when he was a student at 
Brum).  My husband's degree was in Engineering and Economics, and 
one-third of the course was conducted in French.


> The story is interesting for another reason, that a student that I knew 
> well who was in the 2nd year in 1970-71, and so presumably two years 
> junior to Paul Nurse, was in a similar position to what you describe. He

> had no language O level and appeared totally incapable of passing any 
> sort of language exam, but had such high grades in everything else that 
> the Admisssions Tutor decided to admit him anyway. I don't remember that

> the University Senate was involved, but as this happened in 1969 it was 
> before my time. 

I know that there were some changes in the government of the University 
at that time, so perhaps this was one of them. I know that a lot more 
flexibility was allowed in degree courses after 1968.

Later on, however, he went on to work for the National
> Research Council in Ottawa, and acquired a French Canadian girl friend. 
> Quite quickly he discovered that he was capable of learning French after

> all. No doubt there is a question of motivation.

Passing exams and speaking the language don't necessarily bear much 
relation to each other.

Fran
 




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Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
"Don Phillipson"  2007-09-07 07:49:12 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Evan Kirshenbaum <kirs  2007-09-07 09:51:09 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Frances Kemmish <fkemm  2007-09-07 13:27:58 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Evan Kirshenbaum <kirs  2007-09-07 10:36:52 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Frances Kemmish <fkemm  2007-09-07 13:53:19 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Frances Kemmish <fkemm  2007-09-07 13:54:27 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Robin Bignall <docrobi  2007-09-07 23:17:31 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Athel Cornish-Bowden <  2007-09-17 16:56:53 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Frances Kemmish <fkemm  2007-09-17 18:57:17 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Frances Kemmish <fkemm  2007-09-17 18:58:05 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
tony cooper <tony_coop  2007-09-17 20:53:10 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
"Don Phillipson"  2007-09-07 14:31:00 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Evan Kirshenbaum <kirs  2007-09-07 12:15:19 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Peter Moylan <peter@[E  2007-09-08 04:44:44 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Robert Bannister <robb  2007-09-08 07:26:50 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
"piratazul" <  2007-09-08 12:05:48 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Athel Cornish-Bowden <  2007-09-17 17:06:23 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Paul Carmichael <arse@  2007-09-18 10:40:03 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Leslie Danks <Leslie.D  2007-09-18 11:09:00 
Re: How to sound like a scholar in English by learning Spanish
Leslie Danks <Leslie.D  2008-01-24 23:05:55 

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