Jason wrote:
> I would like to learn Arabic. I would like to know of some >books to
> help. I am not scared of books that some may consider too >deep.
see these posts:
From: "Herb Martin" <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Best suggestions or reviews of Arabic grammars for English
speakers
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:58:49 GMT
What is your best suggestion or reviews of Arabic grammars for English
speakers?
I need a good Arabic grammar for studying MSA;
in relation to spoken usage is preferable.
(Educated Spoken Arabic etc.)
I already own an Iraqi (and other) grammar and many books
for learning MSA or other dialect but wish to add a good
reference grammar that will be primarily used to improve my
ability to speak Arabic, and understand spoken Arabic of the
television/cable news.
Comments on or comparisons to any these, which I already have,
are invited:
Arabic Verbs and Essentials of Grammar: A Practical Guide to the
Mastery of
Arabic
(limited but ok)
Arabic Grammar by John MacE
ok, but I hope there is better
As well as, "Elementary MSA" and Al Kitaab (level 1).
This one looks intriguing but isn't published yet:
A Reference Grammar of Modern Standard Arabic (Reference Grammars)
by Karin C. Ryding
(I have great respect for Georgetown Press)
--
Herb Martin
From: Yusuf B Gursey <ybg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: Best suggestions or reviews of Arabic grammars for English
speakers
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:00:04 +0000 (UTC)
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In sci.lang Herb Martin <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: What is your best suggestion or reviews of Arabic grammars
:for English
: speakers?
: I need a good Arabic grammar for studying MSA;
: in relation to spoken usage is preferable.
: (Educated Spoken Arabic etc.)
try Haywood and Nahmad. for specifically Modern Arabic with emphasis on
devitations from Classical usage based on actual examples from
contem****ay usage get "Modern Written Arabic - A Comprhensive Gramamr"
by Badawi, Carter and Gully (best after you master the grammar) for the
intermediate language between spken and standrad there is "Formal
Spoken Arabic: basic Course" by Ryding (tending more towards standrds)
and "Formal Spoken Arabic: FAST Course" by Ryding and Zaiback (tending
towards colloquial). the colloquial used is Levantine.
: I already own an Iraqi (and other) grammar and many books
: for learning MSA or other dialect but wish to add a good
: reference grammar that will be primarily used to improve my
: ability to speak Arabic, and understand spoken Arabic of the
: television/cable news.
my suggestion is first Haywood and Nahmad *and then* Baydawi et al.
Haywood and Nahmad also covers classical usage.
for quick and easy there is the "Teach Yourself Arabic" (the new
editions which is oriented towards a simpliifed modern standard arabic,
the venerable out of print edition is highly classical).
: Comments on or comparisons to any these, which I already have,
: are invited:
: Arabic Verbs and Essentials of Grammar: A Practical Guide to :the
Mastery of
: Arabic
: (limited but ok)
: Arabic Grammar by John MacE
: ok, but I hope there is better
: As well as, "Elementary MSA" and Al Kitaab (level 1).
: This one looks intriguing but isn't published yet:
: A Reference Grammar of Modern Standard Arabic (Reference Grammars)
: by Karin C. Ryding
: (I have great respect for Georgetown Press)
: --
: Herb Martin


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