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Re: Ratatouille

by "Pierre Hallet" <pierre.hallet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 29, 2007 at 11:21 AM

Jeannielle :

> To my ears, the sound "uile" and "ouille" are very
> different.

They are so different actually that in IPA notation
they have no element in common: one is [µil] and the
other is [uj], where (lest unusual coding gets lost)
I wrote [µ] the semi-consonant from the vowel [y].

> But as none of them exist in English, I believe that
> this difference may not be obvious to foreign ears.

The combinations of elements don't exist, but most of
the sound components do, so that I would be surprised
that foreign ears wouldn't hear the difference.

Now the most difficult element is the one I noted [µ].
But it has got difficult even for many French-speaking
people, who often tend to replace it by [w] (like in
"well") and so to pronounce "juin" like "joint".

if English-speaking people want to pronounce [y], I
would suggest that they try to "slide" progressively
from the [i] in "deed" to the [u] in "do", then stop
somewhere in between, when the sound is audibly
neither [i] nor [u].

Once you get [y], you might try [µ] which is to [y]
what [w] is to [u].

Pierre Hallet, Brussels.
 




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Ratatouille
Jack Schmidling <arf@[  2007-07-24 22:57:17 
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"Jeannielle" &l  2007-07-25 11:03:14 
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Jack Schmidling <arf@[  2007-07-25 08:57:42 
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"Jeannielle" &l  2007-07-26 00:01:26 
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Jack Schmidling <arf@[  2007-07-25 17:53:36 
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"John of Aix" &  2007-07-26 09:16:58 
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"Jeannielle" &l  2007-07-26 11:41:11 
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"Jeannielle" &l  2007-07-26 16:57:51 
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Serge Dasara <nospam@[  2007-07-26 20:37:33 
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"Jeannielle" &l  2007-07-27 16:19:13 
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Jack Schmidling <arf@[  2007-07-28 11:06:57 
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Jean-Louis Liagre <jll  2007-07-28 22:30:30 
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"Jeannielle" &l  2007-07-29 00:47:52 
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"Pierre Hallet"  2007-07-29 11:21:16 
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Jack Schmidling <arf@[  2007-07-25 10:21:24 
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"John of Aix" &  2007-07-25 19:37:12 

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