On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:22 -0600, "Tigrah" <felinefan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Rev.Rev." <Rev@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Let us face the truth shall we? The truth, the REAL truth, is:
>>
>> Wicca, and other Pagan beliefs, are based on beliefs that pre-date
>> Christianity by many, many, many years... Can you point to any
>> Christianity that pre-dates ancient 'pagan' beliefs (not the Old
Testament
>> because a) it doesn't pre-date Paganism, and b) it belongs to the
Jewish
>> and borrowed by the Christians anyway)??
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>I agree on this point.
You oughtn't. The Jewish religion was born out of Moses fleeing Egypt.
It is worth noting that the Pharoah of the time had instituted
Monotheism <cough>.
Dualistic accounts of Good and Evil also predate Judaism...
>> Many Christian celebrations were originally 'Pagan' in origin, adapted
by
>> the early Christians who were, after all, forming a NEW religion within
a
>> Pagan Roman Empire. Can you explain why Christmas is held at the same
>> time as the Pagan Winter Solstice and nowhere near when Jesus was
actually
>> born?
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>I agree to this point as well.
Of course. Jesus wasn't born in late December...think carefully about
what Mary and Joseph were doing when they went to Bethlehem. What time
of the year would have been the time for census taking?
>> To ensure that only the Christian word was spread, those following
Pagan
>> beliefs (i.e. "witches") were BURNED AT THE STAKE, or otherwise hunted
an
>> killed. Can you point me to any recorded history of witches or Pagans
>> killing Christians in a similar way?
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>Romans actually did kill Christians in the colleseums, either by
Gladiators
>or by wild beasts (usually lions).
He also neglects the raids by Vikings (and others) on European
Monasteries...
>> Christianity is no more, and no less, valid than ANY OTHER RELIGION.
There
>> are numerous religious beliefs that pre-date Christianity and continue
to
>> this very day, yet you seem to find it necessary to pick on the Pagan
>> beliefs - why is that? Why not pick on Hindu or Buddhist or even Jew,
>> they don't accept Jesus as the Messiah so why aren't you in here
calling
>> the Jewish antichrist and all that?
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>I agree on this point.. there's no point in dogging any one religion over
>any other as they're all valid in one way or other. If we were all meant
to
>believe the same way, we wouldn't have that lovely thing called Free
Will,
>or Freedom of Choice.
People frequently misunderstand the meaning of the word 'valid'. if a
religion is as full of contradictions as the Bible is then it is
logically 'invalid'.
Nik
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