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Re: Spider Solitaire Results

by William Elliot <marsh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 03:39 AM

On Tue, 6 May 2008, Pavel314 wrote:
> "William Elliot" <marsh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > On Sun, 4 May 2008, Pavel314 wrote:
> >
> >> Spider Solitaire is frequently part of the MS Windows game package
but
> >> if you don't have it, you can see what it's all about at:
> >>
> > Oh baloney, I use cards.  What's baloney about Microsoft**** is that
it
> > doesn't have the 9, 7, 6 and 5 cards across versions nor the unique 8
and
> > 4 across Box Spider Solitary

Of course for these versions, the layout is altered beyond the number of
columns and for 7, 6 and 5, progressive relaxation of some rules are made.

Another point about the software and it's adherance to the rules is does
the software insist that before you can deal the next hand that no column
can be a space?

> > Does the pack go off the playing field immediately by stupid software
> > or do you have the option of removing when you wish?  The rules allow
> > removal of a complete suit upon the player's choice.  My experience
> > has shown that it can be of much value to not remove the complete suit
> > are once.
>
> They all fly up to the top immediately on completion of the suit. I'm
> curious; under what conditions would it be a good strategy to leave a
> completed suit on the table? Doing so either blocks the card below from
> being put into play or, if there's nothing beneath the king, occupies an
> otherwise empty row which could be useful in play. Since nothing can be
put
> on the ace, I can't see where leaving the completed suit on the table
would
> ever be an advantage.
>
Unless there's some useful plays to be had by removing the suit, or even
before you remove the suit, a completed sequence or nearly complete
sequence can be use to help consolidate other sequences.

Say you have a space and a complete suit of clubs.  Also you have a heart
under a club and above the club some diamonds.  Now you can switch the
diamonds with clubs in the suit and be able to move the heart and the
clubs.  Afterwards you can reverse the switch and maintain the suit.

Now say you have a complete suit of clubs on top of a bunch of stuff and
you also have a king of clubs at the head of a column.  If you can
continue the play without removing the completed suit to where the king
has no cards on top of it, then you can move the queen on down onto the
lone king and create another space.

If you see this possibility and also that there are no useful moves to be
had from removing the completed suit, then you have the option of keeping
the complete suit for the next hand.  It won't get in the way because you
can always remove it when it shows and just maybe it could be of some use.

Anyway, if there's no cards beneath the completed suit that are needed for
more plays, there is no loss, and some possible gain in keeping them.
Microsoft**** is to be faulted for cheap software that doesn't give you
the option, allowed in the rules, to remove a completed suit at player
choice.
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
Spider Solitaire Results
"Pavel314" <  2008-05-04 08:04:15 
Re: Spider Solitaire Results
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-05-04 22:32:14 
Re: Spider Solitaire Results
"Pavel314" <  2008-05-06 06:12:25 
Re: Spider Solitaire Results
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-05-06 03:39:42 
Re: Spider Solitaire Results
"Pavel314" <  2008-05-06 21:35:22 
Re: Spider Solitaire Results
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-05-06 21:49:01 
Re: Spider Solitaire Results
Prai Jei <pvstownsend@  2008-05-18 21:00:20 
Spider Solitaire Results
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-05-18 22:01:17 
Re: Spider Solitaire Results
Prai Jei <pvstownsend@  2008-05-19 21:47:43 

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