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Re: Math Question

by Odysseus <odysseus1479-at@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 20, 2008 at 01:51 AM

In article <otm484d9he4i3rv3bth42hfoa93i77smi5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Paul <Msr33@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> You have three wheels with 20 numbers on each wheel.
> You get to spin each wheel one time.
> 
> Three 7s pays $100,000
> Two 7s pays $10,000
> 1 7 pays $1000.

The amounts payable are irrelevant to the odds: they don't come into the 
picture unless you want to calculate the average or expected yield.

> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> 1.  Odds against hitting all three 7s=7999-1   (.000125)

Yes: the probability of success is (1/20)^3 = 1/8000.

> 2.  Odss of getting two 7s out of three=204-1  (.004875)

Where # represents any number other than 7, a pair of 7s must occur as 
one of 7-7-#, 7-#-7, or #-7-7. Since each of these can be made 19 ways, 
we have p = (3 * 19)/8000 = 0.007125; the odds against will be 7943:57 
or about 139:1.

> 3.  Odds of getting one 7 out of three=6.01-1   (.1426)

Yes, if you mean getting *at least* one 7. Be sure that's really the 
statistic you want! Getting at least a certain number (> 1) of hits and 
getting exactly that many will have different odds -- see below.

> I'm pretty sure about 1. and 3., but I'm a little sketchy on #2.

Venturing to extrapolate from experiences of my own, I'm inclined to 
guess that your method was sound enough but, in a momentary lapse, you 
subtracted 7 from 20 when you actually intended to exclude the (single) 
successful spin of 7 from the sample space, writing a 13 instead of a 19.

In general problems like this (with independent events) are easiest 
solved with the "binomial theorem". The probabilities can be broken out 
of the expansion of (p_success + p_failure)^n_trials -- which sums to 1 
-- in this case

(1/20 + 19/20)^3 = (1 + 19)^3 * (1/20)^3
                 = (1^3 + 3*1^2*19 + 3*1*19^2 + 19^3)/8000

From the terms in parentheses, with their ***ulative sums:

  | Ways to get                  | Ways to get
  | exactly n            Odds    | at least n           Odds
n | successes   Prob.    against | successes   Prob.    against
----------------------------------------------------------------
3 |      1     .000125    7999:1 |      1     .000125    7999:1
2 |     57     .007125   ~ 139:1 |     58     .00725    ~ 137:1
1 |   1083     .135375   ~6.39:1 |   1141     .142625   ~6.01:1
0 |   6859     .857375   ~0.17:1 |   8000    1             --

Factoring in the payout schedule in your preamble, I'd pay up to $219 to 
take a spin -- that is, had I nothing better to do with the money I 
might. It would be a more attractive proposition were I allowed to 
choose my own target number. ;)

-- 
Odysseus
 




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Math Question
Paul <Msr33@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-19 14:31:47 
Re: Math Question
Odysseus <odysseus1479  2008-07-20 01:51:28 
Re: Math Question
Paul <Msr33@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-20 01:05:55 
Re: Math Question
Paul <Msr33@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-20 01:36:22 
Re: Math Question
"N. Silver" <  2008-07-20 15:54:25 
Re: Math Question
The Qurqirish Dragon <  2008-07-20 06:16:27 
Re: Math Question
"N. Silver" <  2008-07-20 05:41:02 
Re: Math Question
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-07-20 14:49:06 

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