"JSH" <jstevh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 12, 9:40 pm, fishfry <BLOCKSPAMfish...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> In article
>> <8acccf72-4cb4-45f8-8a8d-3b1aff8df...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> JSH <jst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > If you ask people how we know that mathematicians do not lie about
>> > mathematics, usually you get the answer that other mathematicians
>> > would tell you if they did!!! But what if MOST mathematicians lie
>> > about research?
>>
>> Then wouldn't there still be SOME mathematicians complaining that most
>> mathematicians lie? Where are the complainers?
>
> They're ignored, belittled, or silenced.
>
> I've read plenty on this subject not from me where people have talked
> about the problem, but with what I call critical mass, mathematicians
> can continue regardless.
>
> Even fairly remarkably famous situations like some rich guy helped
> Granville and some other math due, in some area, but got shocked when
> he was ripped on when he tried to do some kind of extension of the FLT
> problem. They just blew him out, and he ran away.
>
> So you can point out an error, even an obvious one in a "pure math"
> area and just get denial.
>
> Denial. It's as basic as humanity which is why people learn to not
> just trust group opinion--except in mathematics.
>
> Mathematics is the ONLY major field left in our modern world that gets
> away with just going on group opinion, which is so ironic since our
> modern technological world could not exist without correct
> mathematics.
not so, what about;
Religion, Politics, Government, Finance, Water Companies, Newspapers,
Hollywood, ..........
>
> But that is in applied areas. In "pure math" areas, it's a field of
> opinion only.
>
> Computerized checking is the only way to remove this horror which
> leaves open room for error, and exploitation, as yes, your math
> professors know you need their approval to succeed.
>
> You MUST kiss butt in the math field in one way or another or you will
> be out.
>
> But with computerized checking, an angry, nasty very annoying person
> that everyone hated could still be one of the greatest mathematicians
> around--based on what he or she found.
>
> Today that's impossible. If you're not liked by enough people you
> don't exist in the modern math field.
>
>
> James Harris
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