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Re: Surprising statistics

by JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 07:21 AM

On Apr 29, 6:46 am, "Krieg Suden" <dd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "JSH" <jst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > One thing I once believed was that I just needed to be able to
> > convince one person I was right, and that could start things as that
> > person could help and maybe then we could convince more people and
> > it'd go on from there.
>
> > Over five years since I found a proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, with
> > my prime counting function old news, and with an invention of my own
> > factoring method behind me, I understand now that the problem is much
> > more difficult, so I'm working at puzzling through some of the more
> > recent bizarre things, like web stats.
>
> > For instance, do a search in Google on "definition of mathematical
> > proof" and I should be in the top 20 search results.
>
> > I've long looked at search engine results to attempt to measure
> > influence, and they have long been bizarre, like at times my research
> > would take over some search string that I thought meant that maybe I
> > was getting somewhere, but years keep passing and other measures
> > indicate no influence AT ALL.
>
> > Recently I got "quantified" so I can put up a link so that others can
> > see what I mean:
>
> >http://www.quantcast.com/p-89GNpWgpweHjg
>
> > Hopefully that will work.
>
> > My world wide reach for my blogs is 788 pageviews per month globally
> > with most of my readers outside of the US, and the unique visitor
> > count comes out to about 8 people per day for my three blogs.
>
> > Eight people per day, and I'm probably one of them.  Very
> > underwhelming.
>
> > Quite simply, the data indicates that I am mostly ignored, and have no
> > significant web presence at all.
>
> > But do a web search on any number of search strings related to what is
> > on my blogs, from math to music to current event, and they come up
> > highly.  My no-math, commentary blog took over the number one spot
> > under its name on both Yahoo! and Google months ago, but statistics
> > say it gets visited by maybe 2 people per day, and yes, I am one of
> > them!
>
> > That data is consistent with Google Analytics which says almost
> > exactly the same thing, and I went to Quantcast to get a second
> > opinion, as I puzzle this situation out.
>
> > Quite simply, I have two contradictory data streams.
>
> > One tells me that no one is interested in what I have to say.
>
> > The other says I'm one of the most dominant players on the web in the
> > world across multiple subject lines from economics to politics, to
> > yes, a plot idea for a Superman movie, which is my favorite example.
>
> > Contradictions do not really exist.  They are mirages.
>
> > There is always an underlying logical answer.
>
> > So what is it?
>
> > James Harris
>
> The stats game is very interesting with such a large disparity, there
are
> some free counters out there you may be able to put on your pages,
Google or
> Quantcast could easily be generating false data.  Why does Quantcast not
> change scale on the bottom when you click on weekly or monthly?
> The counter on your page would have to send a word to Quantcast to
update
> its counters for your page(?). Also they must be recording IP via the
visit
> frequency graph.  I am not sure what "reach%" means either.
> There are many other counters out there, a good experiment would be to
set
> up several  monitoring the same pages, the differences would be in how
their
> SW works.

Good advice.  So far I have Google Analytics and Quantcast, and I
mentioned Quantcast because they're open and open source so I can
easily direct others to the statistics.

I keep getting weird data out of these things though, where my
favorite on Google Analytics was the day I had 10 pageloads with 0
visitors on one of my blogs.

So how do 0 visitors do 10 pageloads?

But getting the data right is more than academics.  The statistics
coming from Google Analytics and Quantcast track closely with those
that AdSense gives me, so it's, yup, also about money.

Anyone have a good experience with web stats?  Or any further insights
on them?

Remember I'm trying to resolve contradictions here as do that Google
search on "definition of mathematical proof" and you should get in the
top 20 a page on my math blog which the web stats all say almost NEVER
gets visited.

Almost never.


James Harris
 




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JSH: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-28 22:10:04 
Re: JSH: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-04-29 08:04:18 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Krieg Suden" &  2008-04-29 08:46:46 
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JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-29 07:21:13 
RE: JSH: Surprising statistics
"Doug" <nosp  2008-04-29 09:49:31 
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Joel Davison <joelD@[E  2008-04-29 10:59:44 
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hagman <google@[EMAIL   2008-04-29 07:25:13 
Re: JSH: Surprising statistics
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-04-29 16:18:53 
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JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-29 16:48:37 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Krieg Suden" &  2008-04-29 19:46:41 
Re: Surprising statistics
Joel Davison <joelD@[E  2008-04-30 09:16:16 
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JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-03 07:55:45 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 16:51:37 
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JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-03 09:23:39 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 18:05:07 
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JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-03 10:15:27 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 18:30:09 
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"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-03 15:44:11 
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richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 22:18:06 
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JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-29 18:28:27 
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JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-30 07:14:15 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-04-30 10:50:26 
Re: Surprising statistics
Joel Davison <joelD@[E  2008-04-30 19:41:54 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-04-30 15:53:18 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Srieg Kuden" &  2008-04-30 18:36:23 
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"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-04-30 20:14:06 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-01 00:51:55 
Re: Surprising statistics
David C. Ullrich <dull  2008-05-01 06:09:34 
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richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 21:11:49 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-05-01 11:04:12 
Re: JSH: James Harris to Sue Google and Yahoo! (was: Surprising
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-05-01 11:52:08 
Re: JSH: James Harris to Sue Google and Yahoo! (was: Surprising
"Srien Kudeg" &  2008-05-01 14:21:26 
Re: Surprising statistics
amzoti <amzoti@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 13:18:58 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 18:43:34 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-02 23:20:14 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-02 23:34:29 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 12:51:17 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-03 08:46:36 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 14:47:57 
Re: Surprising statistics
David C. Ullrich <dull  2008-05-03 04:36:24 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 21:29:28 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 12:59:33 
Re: Surprising statistics
rossum <rossum48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 13:57:45 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 14:46:06 

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