"JSH" <jstevh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 29, 6:46 am, "Krieg Suden" <dd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "JSH" <jst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > One thing I once believed was that I just needed to be able to
>> > convince one person I was right, and that could start things as that
>> > person could help and maybe then we could convince more people and
>> > it'd go on from there.
>>
>> > Over five years since I found a proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, with
>> > my prime counting function old news, and with an invention of my own
>> > factoring method behind me, I understand now that the problem is much
>> > more difficult, so I'm working at puzzling through some of the more
>> > recent bizarre things, like web stats.
>>
>> > For instance, do a search in Google on "definition of mathematical
>> > proof" and I should be in the top 20 search results.
>>
>> > I've long looked at search engine results to attempt to measure
>> > influence, and they have long been bizarre, like at times my research
>> > would take over some search string that I thought meant that maybe I
>> > was getting somewhere, but years keep passing and other measures
>> > indicate no influence AT ALL.
>>
>> > Recently I got "quantified" so I can put up a link so that others can
>> > see what I mean:
>>
>> >http://www.quantcast.com/p-89GNpWgpweHjg
>>
>> > Hopefully that will work.
>>
>> > My world wide reach for my blogs is 788 pageviews per month globally
>> > with most of my readers outside of the US, and the unique visitor
>> > count comes out to about 8 people per day for my three blogs.
>>
>> > Eight people per day, and I'm probably one of them. Very
>> > underwhelming.
>>
>> > Quite simply, the data indicates that I am mostly ignored, and have
no
>> > significant web presence at all.
>>
>> > But do a web search on any number of search strings related to what
is
>> > on my blogs, from math to music to current event, and they come up
>> > highly. My no-math, commentary blog took over the number one spot
>> > under its name on both Yahoo! and Google months ago, but statistics
>> > say it gets visited by maybe 2 people per day, and yes, I am one of
>> > them!
>>
>> > That data is consistent with Google Analytics which says almost
>> > exactly the same thing, and I went to Quantcast to get a second
>> > opinion, as I puzzle this situation out.
>>
>> > Quite simply, I have two contradictory data streams.
>>
>> > One tells me that no one is interested in what I have to say.
>>
>> > The other says I'm one of the most dominant players on the web in the
>> > world across multiple subject lines from economics to politics, to
>> > yes, a plot idea for a Superman movie, which is my favorite example.
>>
>> > Contradictions do not really exist. They are mirages.
>>
>> > There is always an underlying logical answer.
>>
>> > So what is it?
>>
>> > James Harris
>>
>> The stats game is very interesting with such a large disparity, there
are
>> some free counters out there you may be able to put on your pages,
Google
>> or
>> Quantcast could easily be generating false data. Why does Quantcast
not
>> change scale on the bottom when you click on weekly or monthly?
>> The counter on your page would have to send a word to Quantcast to
update
>> its counters for your page(?). Also they must be recording IP via the
>> visit
>> frequency graph. I am not sure what "reach%" means either.
>> There are many other counters out there, a good experiment would be to
>> set
>> up several monitoring the same pages, the differences would be in how
>> their
>> SW works.
>
> Good advice. So far I have Google Analytics and Quantcast, and I
> mentioned Quantcast because they're open and open source so I can
> easily direct others to the statistics.
>
> I keep getting weird data out of these things though, where my
> favorite on Google Analytics was the day I had 10 pageloads with 0
> visitors on one of my blogs.
>
> So how do 0 visitors do 10 pageloads?
>
> But getting the data right is more than academics. The statistics
> coming from Google Analytics and Quantcast track closely with those
> that AdSense gives me, so it's, yup, also about money.
>
> Anyone have a good experience with web stats? Or any further insights
> on them?
>
> Remember I'm trying to resolve contradictions here as do that Google
> search on "definition of mathematical proof" and you should get in the
> top 20 a page on my math blog which the web stats all say almost NEVER
> gets visited.
>
> Almost never.
>
>
> James Harris
If you check
http://www.quantcast.com/wunderground.com
they have demographics! How do, or can they get that ???
what is their source of data for that ??
How and where would some one declare their Race, Income, Education, Age,
Gender and number of children to be published on the internet ??
from US census data ??
from IP to physical address mapping and using the census data ??
They must be using very small samples if at all.
looks hokey to me now.
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