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Re: Surprising statistics

by JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 06:28 PM

On Apr 29, 5:46 pm, "Krieg Suden" <dd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "JSH" <jst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
>
news:7bf60e93-25a5-4236-a74f-8f467c388f15@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> > On Apr 29, 7:59 am, Joel Davison <jo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> Wouldn't you have to say though that the bottom line of all this
> >> "seeking of attention" is nothing more than a symptom of your
> >> Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
>
> >> I know, by me responding with this post, I'm just feeding your
disorder,
> >> but my main concern here is to ****ne some light on what's really
going
> >> on with this new-found interest in statistics of yours, and to set
the
> >> facts straight for those that might not be aware of your disorder.
>
> > There is no new interest in statistics.  I've been monitoring them for
> > months; years in some areas.
>
> > The issue here is the bizarrely high rankings given to webpages of
> > mine where statistics show little to no activity.
>
> > Like I just did a search in Google on "definition of mathematical
> > proof".  My blog page with my definition of mathematical proof came up
> > second.  It shows as having received 119 pagevies since January 1st of
> > this year according to Google Analytics.
>
> > And then I did a search on: Superman plot idea
>
> > I put it that way to emphasize that you don't use quotes.  That came
> > up number one in Google, though at least it doesn't come up at all in
> > Yahoo!
>
> > But do a search on: class viewer
>
> > And I get number one in Google and number two in Yahoo! for my open
> > source project called by that name.
>
> > Its statistics have been available for years on SourceForge.
>
> > To make it clear that I'm puzzled by the high rankings and not the
> > number of hits, I'll point out that a couple of years ago when I first
> > started puzzling over this odd situation, I actually looked directly
> > at hits coming to my page for my open source project as SourceForge
> > allows project administrators to do that, and the hit count was right
> > in line with the re****ted statistics.
>
> > So yes, it's bugging me.  Why in the hell do pages of mine rank so
> > highly when the hit counts and linkages to those pages indicate very
> > few people are reading them?
>
> > For those wondering if there was a bump from these postings, I just
> > looked and didn't see any.
>
> > Oh, here's a tidbit from the statistics though: crank.net has a page
> > ripping on me--a pure hate page slamming me as a crank and crackpot--
> > which links back to my math blog.  Google Analytics says that it
> > provides 2.55% of my blog hits.  Just in case you were wondering...
>
> > More trivia, the keyword that provides 3% of my blog hits according to
> > the same source is "fermat".
>
> > The top keyword is "mymath" providing 45.63%.  I have 1 hit each over
> > the last month for the following keywords:
>
> > rsa examples
> > partial difference equation
> > prime distribution
> > arguing math
> > fake math
> > goldbach news
> > goldbach conjecture
>
> > According to Google Analytics my math blog was visited over the last
> > month by people from 40 countries, of which Russia and China are
> > conspicuously absent.
>
> now that is strange as most of  countries do not have a high density of
> comuputers as the USA.
>
> What were the smaller countries? or did they truncate the list?

I'm not going to sit here and list 40 countries.  Canada not
surprisingly was third behind the UK and US, as I'd think English
speaking countries would dominate.  Though Australia was only eighth.
Europe was covered.  I even had Finland and Norway.  Also I had Iran,
Pakistan and India.  From Africa, only South Africa and Egypt.  And
from South America only Chile and Brazil.

Conspicuously absent are China, Russia, oh and Japan, though I did
have South Korea, and Malaysia.

> Perhaps they are counting web crawlers, web spiders as well?
> google has a mess of them out all the time.
>
>

Nope.  On a side note, if you've ever looked at your website hits
directly you know the Googlebot, as that's what it says when it hits:
Googlebot.  I just thought that was kind of cool back when I looked at
hits directly.  Got bored though so I don't bother trying any more,
though I don't think I could with my blogs though I could with some of
the pages on my open source project.  But I just don't care enough.

I'm sure Google is not counting its own hits, and besides I can
compare with my other blogs.  My open source project blog only has
hits from 33 countries, and hey, China is one of them, while my
general interest blog just has 15 countries, where primarily hits are
from English countries and Europe.

But hey, that's not a lot of countries anyway, so those numbers are
consistent with low hit counts.

The surprise is in the rankings, as I figure that if so many of my
blog posts are number one in Google searches then they should be
getting a lot of hits, like "definition of mathematical proof".

But maybe very few people ever bother to actually type "definition of
mathematical proof" in Google.  As like, who cares?  But I'd think:
Superman plot idea

No.  Maybe very few people bother to type that into Google either.
Regardless the mystery here is high search rankings versus low hit
counts.  Might take a congressional order though to force Yahoo! and
Google to say EXACTLY how they rank pages...hmmm...just joking!

Like I'd really push through laws forcing search engines to be that
transparent.

I need answers here.  What is the reason for the contradictory
information?  Or should I actually start pondering a legal solution
like new laws?


James Harris
 




 44 Posts in Topic:
JSH: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-28 22:10:04 
Re: JSH: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-04-29 08:04:18 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Krieg Suden" &  2008-04-29 08:46:46 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-29 07:21:13 
RE: JSH: Surprising statistics
"Doug" <nosp  2008-04-29 09:49:31 
Re: Surprising statistics
Joel Davison <joelD@[E  2008-04-29 10:59:44 
Re: JSH: Surprising statistics
hagman <google@[EMAIL   2008-04-29 07:25:13 
Re: JSH: Surprising statistics
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-04-29 16:18:53 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-29 16:48:37 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Krieg Suden" &  2008-04-29 19:46:41 
Re: Surprising statistics
Joel Davison <joelD@[E  2008-04-30 09:16:16 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-03 07:55:45 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 16:51:37 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-03 09:23:39 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 18:05:07 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-03 10:15:27 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 18:30:09 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-03 15:44:11 
Re: Surprising statistics
richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 22:18:06 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-29 18:28:27 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-30 07:14:15 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-04-30 10:50:26 
Re: Surprising statistics
Joel Davison <joelD@[E  2008-04-30 19:41:54 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-04-30 15:53:18 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Srieg Kuden" &  2008-04-30 18:36:23 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-04-30 20:14:06 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-01 00:51:55 
Re: Surprising statistics
David C. Ullrich <dull  2008-05-01 06:09:34 
Re: Surprising statistics
richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 21:11:49 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-05-01 11:04:12 
Re: JSH: James Harris to Sue Google and Yahoo! (was: Surprising
"Lits O'Hate" &  2008-05-01 11:52:08 
Re: JSH: James Harris to Sue Google and Yahoo! (was: Surprising
"Srien Kudeg" &  2008-05-01 14:21:26 
Re: Surprising statistics
amzoti <amzoti@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 13:18:58 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 18:43:34 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-02 23:20:14 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-02 23:34:29 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 12:51:17 
Re: Surprising statistics
"Jesse F. Hughes&quo  2008-05-03 08:46:36 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 14:47:57 
Re: Surprising statistics
David C. Ullrich <dull  2008-05-03 04:36:24 
Re: Surprising statistics
JSH <jstevh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 21:29:28 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 12:59:33 
Re: Surprising statistics
rossum <rossum48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 13:57:45 
Re: Surprising statistics
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Car  2008-05-03 14:46:06 

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