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Re: What values?

by The World Wide Wade <aderamey.addw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 3, 2008 at 01:54 PM

In article <MPG.22865099b5c7cbd298b61d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Fri, 02 May 2008 23:33:59 -0600 from Virgil <Virgil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
> > In article <030520080037307285%plsperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >  Paul Sperry <plsperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > 
> > > -- 
> > > Paul Sperry
> > > Columbia, SC (USA)
> > 
> > 4 == -1 (mod 5) so 4^n == (-1)^n (mod 5).
> 
> I never really studied exponents in modular arithmetic, so thinking 
> out loud I'll try to apply this to 3^n mod 5:

The exponent property is based on a result I'm sure you know: If a = b 
(mod m) and c = d  (mod m), then ac = bd (mod m). Proving a = b (mod 
m) => a^n = b^n (mod m) for n = 1, 2, ... is then a two-line induction 
argument.

> (-2)^n mod 5 could be anything but 0.
> Hmm:  3, 9, 27, 81, 243, 729, ...
> Seems to work.
> 
> I'm guessing that this is a shorthand for binomial expansion. I could 
> write out
> 
> 3^n = (5-2)^n
>     = 5^2 + n*(-2)*5^(n-1) + ... + n*(-2)^(n-1)*5 + (-2)^n
> 
> Taking that modulo 5, every term drops out except the last. So
> 
> 3^n mod 5 = (-2)^n mod 5.
> 
> What can the values of (-2)^n mod 5 be? -2 becomes 3, 4, -8 becomes 
> 2, 16 becomes 1, -32 becomes 3, 64 becomes 4, -128 becomes 2, 256 
> becomes 1, -512 becomes 3, anything but 0.
> 
> It seems that 3^n mod 5 or (-2)^n mod 5 cycles 3,4,2,1 endlessly. I 
> guess an inductive proof would be necessary to show it rigorously.
 




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what are all the possible value of 4^r (mod 5)
chan <chalong08@[EMAIL  2008-05-02 07:03:45 
Re: what are all the possible value of 4^r (mod 5)
The Qurqirish Dragon <  2008-05-02 07:15:22 
Re: what are all the possible value of 4^r (mod 5)
chan <chalong08@[EMAIL  2008-05-02 08:30:13 
Re: what are all the possible value of 4^r (mod 5)
Barb Knox <see@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 16:18:50 
What values?
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-05-02 20:37:08 
Re: What values?
Paul Sperry <plsperry@  2008-05-03 04:37:31 
Re: What values?
Virgil <Virgil@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 23:33:59 
Re: What values?
Stan Brown <the_stan_b  2008-05-03 11:36:48 
Re: What values?
The World Wide Wade <a  2008-05-03 13:54:09 
Re: What values?
Stan Brown <the_stan_b  2008-05-05 22:36:55 
Re: what are all the possible value of 4^r (mod 5)
"Dana DeLouis"   2008-05-16 11:28:17 
Re: what are all the possible value of 4^r (mod 5)
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-05-19 06:01:42 

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