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Re: Limits and continuity

by rob@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Johnson) Jul 3, 2008 at 11:36 AM

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<15429522.1215020924777.JavaMail.jakarta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rohan Choudhary <rohan.ckul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Can someone help me with this :
>
>Lim(n->inf)  nSin(2(pi)(e)n!)
>
>I believe that limit does not exist. One of the guys tried to prove that
the limit is 2(pi) by expanding e.

In article
<30429294.1215028220677.JavaMail.jakarta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Charles Lazo <laser.lite@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>One of the guys tried to prove that the limit is 2(pi) by expanding e.
>
>Rohan, he was right.  Let (e)n! = I + f, where I is the integer part and
f is the fraction.  Then sin(2(pi)(e)n!) = sin(2(pi)f).  f = 1/(n+1) +
1/(n+1)(n+2) + ... So sin(2(pi)(e)n!) may be approximated by
sin(2(pi)/(n+1)) which tends to 2(pi)/(n+1) in the limit.

In article
<23312527.1215030820929.JavaMail.jakarta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Rohan Choudhary <rohan.ckul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>My only doubt in this is that how do you prove that 1/(n+1) +
1/(n+1)(n+2) .... where this sequence itself contains infinite terms and
has each term tending to 0, how is it that its limit is 0, because thats
what the whole thing depends upon.
>
>If someone can do that more rigorously, it wud be great.

In article
<30159206.1215033392801.JavaMail.jakarta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Charles Lazo <laser.lite@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>1/(n+1) + 1/(n+1)(n+2) .... < 1/n + 1/(n^2) + ... = (1/n)(1/(1-1/n)) =
1/(n-1)

It makes reading your reply so much easier if you quote the article
to which you are replying.

Why not just

     1
    ---
    n+1

       1     1   1     1   1   1     1   1   1   1
    < --- + --- --- + --- --- --- + --- --- --- --- + ...
      n+1   n+1 n+2   n+1 n+2 n+3   n+1 n+2 n+3 n+4

       1     1   1     1   1   1     1   1   1   1
    < --- + --- --- + --- --- --- + --- --- --- --- + ...
      n+1   n+1 n+1   n+1 n+1 n+1   n+1 n+1 n+1 n+1

      1
    = -
      n

The Sandwich Theorem <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeeze_theorem>
says that

                2pi                                          2pi
     lim n sin( --- ) <=  lim n sin(2pi e n!) <=  lim n sin( --- )
    n->oo       n+1      n->oo                   n->oo        n

Using lim_{x->0} sin(x)/x = 1, we get

                2pi               n  n+1      2pi
     lim n sin( --- ) = 2pi lim  --- --- sin( --- ) = 2 pi
    n->oo       n+1        n->oo n+1 2pi      n+1

and
 
                2pi               n       2pi
     lim n sin( --- ) = 2pi lim  --- sin( --- ) = 2 pi
    n->oo        n         n->oo 2pi       n

Therefore

     lim n sin(2pi e n!) = 2 pi
    n->oo

Rob Johnson <rob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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 6 Posts in Topic:
Limits and continuity
Rohan Choudhary <rohan  2008-07-02 13:48:14 
Re: Limits and continuity
"Brian M. Scott"  2008-07-02 15:39:14 
Re: Limits and continuity
Charles Lazo <laser.li  2008-07-02 15:49:50 
Re: Limits and continuity
Rohan Choudhary <rohan  2008-07-02 16:33:10 
Re: Limits and continuity
Charles Lazo <laser.li  2008-07-02 17:16:02 
Re: Limits and continuity
rob@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R  2008-07-03 11:36:46 

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