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Re: set math problem

by William Elliot <marsh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM

On Wed, 14 May 2008, Oxnard wrote:

> E = is element of s
> N = integers >= 0
>
> {y | y E N ^ y = y+1}

A = { x in N | y = y + 1 } = nulset

> The books answer is the null set.

If x in A, then x in N, x = x + 1.
Thus 0 = 1 which is contradiction.
Consequently x not in A.

For all x in A, x not in A
<->
for all x, x not in A
<->
not some x, x in A
<->
A = nulset

> The answer makes sense but not sure how to work through the steps
another
> example in the book shows
>
> t1 := { y E N | y = y +1}
>
> so y must be an element of N which satisfies  y = y +1 which there are
none
>
> t2 := { y | y E t1 }
>
As A = { x | x in A }, t1 = t2.

> y = null ..
>
That is nonsense.

> so not sure how to work through the equation ... dealing with the null
set
> ... any advice

The empty set, nulset = { x | x /= x }.

Riddle of the day.  Can somebody when he just not himself,
	apply for member****p in the empty set?
 




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set math problem
"Oxnard" <ox  2008-05-14 07:21:48 
Re: set math problem
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-05-14 22:26:08 

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