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Re: Islam Got it First

by Zev <zev_horn@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 3, 2008 at 10:43 PM

On Jul 2, 4:11=A0am, "534@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <rtte4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> The tiling in medieval Islamic architecture turns out to embody a
> mathematical insight that Westerners thought they had discovered only 30
> years ago.
>
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/36281
"534@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <rtte4353@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:g4eh3u$o09$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The tiling in medieval Islamic architecture turns out to embody a
> mathematical insight that Westerners thought they had discovered only 30
> years ago.
>
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/36281

The following message was posted recently
by Robert Houghton in soc.religion.islam under the title
"The Persian contribution to Islamic culture".

I have claimed that the culture which the Muslims brought to medieval
Spain
(claimed to be the source of the enlightenment of Western Christendom
by
Muslim polemicists) was derived from the culture of the Roman
Christian
Empire and from that of Persia. The Arabs contributed only the Arabic
language (which they forced upon the conquered people) and the Koranic
religion to what is thought of as Islamic culture.

I have found a tribute by none other than Ibn Khaldun to the extent
and
power of the Persian contribution to Islamic culture. He incidentally
remarks upon the lack of an Arab contribution:
"Ibn Khaldun narrates in his Muqaddimah

  It is a remarkable fact that, with few exceptions, most Muslim
scholars.in
the intellectual sciences have been non-Arabs, thus the founders of
grammar
were Sibawaih and after him, al-Farsi and Az-Zajjaj. All of them were
of
Persian descent they invented rules of (Arabic) grammar. Great jurists
were
Persians. Only the Persians engaged in the task of preserving
knowledge and
writing systematic scholarly works. Thus the truth of the statement of
the
prophet (Muhammad) becomes apparent, 'If learning were suspended in
the
highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it".The intellectual
sciences were also the preserve of the Persians, left alone by the
Arabs,
who did not cultivate them.as was the case with all crafts.This
situation
continued in the cities as long as the Persians and Persian countries,
Iraq,
Khorasan and Transoxiana (modern Central Asia), retained their
sedentary
culture. "
 




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Islam Got it First
"534@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-02 06:11:35 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-07-01 20:43:08 
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"534@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-02 07:01:48 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-07-01 21:57:09 
Re: Islam Got it First
"John Johnson"   2008-09-15 22:29:48 
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Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@[EM  2008-07-02 02:04:26 
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"towelie" <b  2008-07-02 03:19:53 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-07-01 21:12:33 
Re: Islam Got it First
"Justin Case" &  2008-07-01 21:52:19 
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"towelie" <b  2008-07-02 03:18:26 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-07-02 21:28:48 
Re: Islam Got it First
"John Johnson"   2008-09-15 22:38:41 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-07-02 21:40:07 
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"John Johnson"   2008-09-15 22:53:15 
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"Alex W." <i  2008-07-02 14:33:06 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-07-02 21:46:16 
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"Alex W." <i  2008-07-03 12:37:56 
Re: Islam Got it First
"Justin Case" &  2008-07-03 18:48:43 
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"Alex W." <i  2008-07-04 02:37:41 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-07-04 16:06:53 
Re: Islam Got it First
"John Johnson"   2008-09-15 22:19:10 
Re: Islam Got it First
"John Johnson"   2008-09-15 22:41:04 
Re: Islam Got it First
"John Johnson"   2008-09-15 22:47:14 
Re: Islam Got it First
"towelie" <b  2008-07-02 03:12:28 
Re: Islam Got it First
"Pink Freud" &l  2008-07-02 20:16:07 
Re: Islam Got it First
SkyEyes <skyeyes9@[EMA  2008-07-02 13:32:43 
Re: Islam Got it First
erikc <firewevr@[EMAIL  2008-07-09 21:39:43 
Re: Islam Got it First
"John Johnson"   2008-09-15 22:24:28 
Re: Islam Got it First
"Thurisaz, Germanic   2008-07-02 07:48:16 
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James Dow Allen <jdall  2008-07-01 23:59:55 
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Claude Hopper <boobooi  2008-07-03 07:45:03 
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Zev <zev_horn@[EMAIL P  2008-07-03 22:43:04 

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