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Re: Would you call this a paradox?

by kunzmilan <kunzmilan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 12, 2008 at 12:42 AM

On Jul 11, 9:43=A0am, "AngleWyrm" <anglew...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Doug Wedel" <dougwe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:8NOdnXbn37Xx1fzVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > One definition of a paradox is "an apparently true statement or group
o=
f
> > statements that leads to a contradiction or a situation which defies
> > intuition"
> > Both Claude Shannon and Andrey Kolmogorov define the quantity of
> > information contained in a string in terms of the number of bits
requir=
ed
> > to specify the string. =A0This seems eminently reasonable -- the fewer
=
the
> > bits required to specify a string, the less "information" it contains
-=
- =A0
> > but it leads ineluctably to the conclusion that information is at its
> > maximum in random numbers.
>
> This re-casting of the definition of information leads to bad
conclusions=
..
> It is better to just use the word "data" when referring to bit strings.
>
> It is not reasonable to suggest that the length of a data string is
> pro****tional to the information it contains.

> The length of the string is not im****tant, since the measure is
normalize=
d,
> and the length is accounted.
> Lets have m objects. To their indexing by the binary decision tree
> we need at least log_2 digits. For 8 objects it is 24 digits,
> as 000, ... till 111.
> If objects are already indexed,  e. g. aaaabbcd, the decision
> tree is shortened, and this shortening is information, we have about the
> string.
> To calculate the shortest decision trees were tedious, and thus it is
> more convenient to replace them by their limits, binary logarithms.
kunzmilan
 




 19 Posts in Topic:
Would you call this a paradox?
"Doug Wedel" &l  2008-06-24 12:17:59 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
William Elliot <marsh@  2008-06-24 21:15:58 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
"Doug Wedel" &l  2008-06-25 08:39:38 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
Frederick Williams <fr  2008-06-25 12:36:41 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
"Doug Wedel" &l  2008-06-25 08:36:34 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-07-07 13:01:45 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
kunzmilan <kunzmilan@[  2008-06-25 06:42:08 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
kunzmilan <kunzmilan@[  2008-06-25 12:48:50 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
kunzmilan <kunzmilan@[  2008-07-07 10:40:43 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-07-07 11:21:01 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-07-07 11:21:20 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-07-08 12:24:48 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
kunzmilan <kunzmilan@[  2008-07-08 02:11:22 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
kunzmilan <kunzmilan@[  2008-07-08 10:32:53 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
"AngleWyrm" <  2008-07-11 00:43:35 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
kunzmilan <kunzmilan@[  2008-07-12 00:42:36 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
"Mike Terry" &l  2008-07-12 15:04:47 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
"AngleWyrm" <  2008-07-26 21:28:51 
Re: Would you call this a paradox?
hagman <google@[EMAIL   2008-07-28 03:51:21 

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