The Entire Population of Liechtenstein wrote:
> Reading this post reminds me of the egg eating scene in Cool Hand Luke.
> "How many paragraphs can YOU get through"?
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> I managed five.
I refer to the point in his posts where I quit reading as the WTFE
point. It's the point where I say "what the **** ever," and move on
down the thread.
I gotta respect anyone who even attempts origional dialectical
reasoning, but I had to give up once he brought the zodiac into play.
> ilya_shambat2004@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>The twelve signs of the zodiac correspond with twelve modes of
>>cognition. These combine in turn correspond with four faculties for
>>discerning reality: the ego; the physical senses; the rational mind;
>>and the psyche. Each group of four is set in threes, on the basis of
>>association of the cognitive method with a level ever more removed
>>from one's immediate self. These levels are the immediate
>>self-centered simplicism of the first four signs; the self-centered
>>methodologism of the second four signs; and the contextual
>>methodologism of the last four.
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>>The self-centered cognition identifies primarily with - the self. It
>>identifies with perceptions that are imparted oneself, through one or
>>another method. The simplicist takes these perceptions as axiomatic
>>and presents the world as a function thereof. The simplicist is
>>centered firmly within the self and takes this self as the basic
>>reality. The simplicist gives a hoot about the world except whatever
>>immediately affects its personal experience. The moral and
>>intellectual codes of the simplicist are projections of its guttural
>>interest on the world. The world that the simplicist sees is a direct
>>function of the dominant faculty that exist in his mind; the faculty
>>that, to him, possesses the most potent and most immediate - reality.
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>>The self-centered methodologist operates from the self, but at a
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>>removed from the self. The methodologist operates through - a method.
>>The methodologist is a point, a single point in a multidimensional
>>space that is its own corner of the universe. The methodologist is
>>given a method - a code, a logic, a dialectic or an insight - and
>>applies this method in respect to this base of perceptions to create
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>>structure at his particular spot of light. The contextual
>>methodologist identifies with a context of which he is a part. He
>>applies a particular mental faculty that is his own to identify with
>>this context and to expand it.
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>>Each level is a break with the previous level. It is also a
>>fragmentation from the self - from the core reality - and
>>identification with - the collective. One loses integrity as one
>>proceeds along the cycle even as one gains perspective. One loses
>>energy and self-confidence even as one gains experience. One loses
>>self-centeredness even as one gains collective identification and
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>>on bigger reality. This tradeoff is much akin to sunlight percolating
>>from plasma, to air, to liquid, to solid, or atoms dropping from
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>>energy orbits to lower-energy orbits and coagulating into matter. The
>>most powerful, or most limited, people stay inthe loweststages.
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>>the most curious or the weakest move on. This leads to a paradoxical
>>situatin in which the most powerful people have the least advanced
>>consciousness and the rest of the world serves them. Otherwise known
>>as might-makes-right. The situation is remediable by keeping the
>>enlightened path. The path that retains integrity keeps the lower
>>levels and moves on to the higher ones by volitional consciousness.
>>The path that loses integrity moves on as an act of loss.
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>>The evolution from one level to the next always starts with some
>>participants in the principle either failing or rebelling. Either
>>losing or winning. Either failing, being defeated, and looking for
>>alternatives or seeing the shortcomings and bravely forging ahead. It
>>starts out as a pathological event that is met with hysteria and
>>hostility and then grows into a principle of its own. Or it starts
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>>with a vision.
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>>Aries is egocentric simplicism. The world according to Aries is
>>divided into three categories: That which is good for me; that which
>>is bad for me; and that which is irrelevant to me. Aries values are a
>>function of its ability tomake its ego relevant in the world; to beat
>>up all competition; to make itself the big enchilada; to be the hero.
>>The core reality of Aries is this: Ego. As such it posseses perfect
>>integrity and perfect simplicity; a perfect selfhood. The perfect
>>human being, some would say, one that contains no disfigurement
>>against its basic aesthetic.The Aries cognitive methodology - whether
>>it be objectivism or - presents the ego as the basic cosmic reality
>>and represents the world in terms of its effect upon it. This allows
>>for a system that is perfectly egocentric; that works specifically to
>>understand fulfilment of ego and basic needs. Anything that is not
>>identified with the ego, Aries sees as a digression, a loss , a
>>failure, a looserhood. But there is a problem. The world. What does
>>Aries want to be by itself? If unchecked, EVERYTHING. Will everything
>>be everything? Probably not. That's when some of the losers of Aries
>>begin to gang up in - societies. And some of the losers of ego begin
>>to identify with - something else.
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>>That's when Taurus barges into the picture. Taurus the slow and
>>methodical bull. Taurus the tribe. Taurus the physical matter. Taurus
>>is existent-based simplicism; the perception of physical world
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>>physical senses; the examination of the world through these physical
>>senses and application of mind toward resolving problems as they
>>affect the world as senses perceive it. Taurus could give a hoot
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>>ego. It cares about what makes the thing of which ego is a material
>>manifestation - the Organism - happy. It is a rock that coagulates
>>when the spark of fire loses steam. It is the world as presented
>>through physical senses; physical senses that are a property of - the
>>Organism - and as such are one level removed from the core of self.
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>>The Taurean mind sees the world as objects and deals with it as
>>objects, checking everything against its physical senses and
>>representing everything in terms of the image that they present.
>>Taurus is mind separated into five senses; its methodologism is
>>separated into objects that are favorable to these five senses and
>>objects that are not. The difference between Taurus and Aries is that
>>Taurus does not see the world in terms of itself but in terms of its
>>physical senses. This removes the center of cognition from the self
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>>one notch. It also complicates things just one bit, by taking the
>>center away from the pleasure-pain and giving it to a more
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>>sensory apparatus. The Taurus feels like it has an objective grip on
>>reality because it discerns it through senses. In fact its grip on
>>reality is entirely a function of is perceived survivalistic
>>self-interest and is easiest warped into total irrationality by
>>threatening this perceived self-interest or the senses. The world
>>according to Taurus typically does not extend beyond its own
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>>The universe is not quarks or atoms or mindspace or other such
>>mumbo-jumbo; it is food in one's mouth and blood on one's gut. If you
>>wanna make a taurus world crumble, you take away the things that make
>>its organism happy. The consciousness is self-centered and presented
>>as senses. This also has a moral dimension that should not be
>>overlooked. The Taurus that first decided to bolt on Aries had to
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>>a way to get other Aries to embrace peaceful ways. They did this by
>>conceiving - morality. Morality is immutable standard, as immutable
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>>- reality. Reality, of course, of Mom, apple pie and America. It is
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>>immune from rational challenge as - reality- and as absolutely
>>essential to one's survival. The mind of the Taurus needs either
>>morality or reality or a good combination of both. The principles are
>>as real as objects, and Taurus flings them around like rocks at any
>>possible - deviant.
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>>The Taurus is a closed system. The world is objects and principles.
>>Because of the difficult transition from absolute egocentrism of
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> Aries
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>>to its present state, Taurus has a lot of self-righteousness about
>>being able to dissociate itself from its immediate self and identify
>>with peaceful existence on a plot of land blathering about Mom apple
>>pie and America. This self-righteousness, combined with extreme
>>limitation of its perceptual field to the tiny subset of the world
>>that it calls reality, creates a mind locked; a mind like a rock; a
>>mind that won't move and won't lend to scrutiny unless dislodged
>>absolutely. Then it becomes light. Grows wings. Turns into words.
>>Grows a brain. Learns to see slightly beyond its self-interest as an
>>object and identifies with self-interest as a - brain. Gemini is
>>simplicism on the basis of symbolic representation. Gemini represents
>>Taurean reality in terms of words - language - mathematical symbols -
>>and goes inside the head, where symbols have the place of reality, to
>>understand the world as the mind sees it. To Gemini reality is a sum
>>of linguistic and symbolic representations of one's experience, as
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>>works toward solutions of problems within the real world as they
>>impact one's experience. The Gemini is the mind, and the world exists
>>through the mind's ability to solve problems - to solve particularly
>>the problems in "real-world"; the world as it once again directly
>>impacts one's own experience. This is useful for a level of removal
>>from reality of the flesh that is necessary to arrive at more
>>objective solutions than Taurean locked-mindedness would allow. These
>>symbolisms, and systems that underlie them, constitute reality felt
>>keenly and absolutely, to the point of causing survival panic and
>>absolute moral resistance whenever they start to come under attack.
>>This survival panic is a result of the simple fact that, as a being
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>>mind, the Gemini uses these symbols to solve survival-related
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>>and to orient in the sea of experience. Gemini is the symbolic
>>loyalist; the culture junkie; the man who accepts as axiomatic the
>>educational and linguistic training and identifies his self- his
>>sanity - his reality - with unquestioning perpetuation thereof. The
>>difference between Gemini and Taurus consists in one further level of
>>removal from reality afforded by Gemini; a level that allows a more
>>overarching perspective as well as a greater potential for error; a
>>level that lends more easily to communication than Aries or Taurus,
>>but is easiest conditioned by insertion within the mind of linguistic
>>and educational code and its presentation as one and only reality.
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>>Gemini thinks that it's smart and rational. Gemini thinks that its
>>symbols describe - everything. Gemini is guturally hateful to
>>innovative uses of language and symbolism that reveal places in which
>>the memetic complex fails to describe reality, enough to demonize
>>those who would employ such self-honesty as heretics or worse. Gemini
>>is as loyal to its code as Taurus is to its property and its
>>principles; dogmatically so - hatefully so - mind-killingly so - in a
>>way that arouses people into mass hysteria; a phenomenon that is
>>associated mostly with Taurus and Virgo but really require Gemini's
>>dogmatism and communication skills in ordr to spread. And yet it
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>>finding the same symbolism that did wonders at first to come up
>>eventually - unfulfilling. An apple is an apple and a girl is a girl,
>>but for one or another stupid reason there is a huge difference
>>between a soft warm cuddly delectable girl who offers spiritual
>>blending and a dried-out meme-filled rationalist who clobbers one on
>>one's head with dogma each time one begins to speak. So some people
>>begin to decide that maybe the symbolic context in which the rational
>>mind works is inadequate for discerning all of - reality. This causes
>>survival panic in the mind and contempt for the people who would
>>advocate such a ridiculous possibility. The more hysterical and
>>removed from reality the supposed rationalists get, the more they
>>themselves in spite of their rigidly cultivated pretense of rational
>>motivation look like something other than rational in their actions.
>>And then a different level of cognition begins to make itself
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>>a level of emotions. A level of psyche. A level of inner reality that
>>is attuned to the other as it is attuned to the self.
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>>Cancer is emotional simplicism. Cancer sees the world in terms of its
>>emotions. These, in turn, consummate the preceding three states: for
>>after all an emotion can be evoked by - an ego stimulus, a physical
>>stimulus, a symbolic stimulus or an emotion. The emotions of Cancer
>>are its subjective reality; its mode of orienting; its inner state.
>>Something is good if it makes it feel good inside, something is bad
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>>it makes it feel bad inside. This constitutes the next level of
>>removal from immediacy than Gemini, from rational mind into the
>>psyche. It also opens a whole dimension of human experience even as
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>>consummates the preceding three faculties. One can feel good by
>>fulfilling his ego; one can feel good by becoming wealthy; one can
>>feel good by solving a problem; or one can feel good by experiencing
>>affection for or of another person. Seeing the world in this way, and
>>living values that make the best of emotions, does wonders for the
>>psyches mangled by gemini memetic-infestationism. It does wonders for
>>the heart. The hearts glow, caring spreads, everyone gets mushy and
>>emotional and romantic. People get nice, sweet, even healthy. But the
>>more the emotional bonds spread between people the more they find
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>>strangulating rather than heart-warming. People tend to get fat,
>>communitarian, manipulative, sedate, much like cattle. This does not
>>sit well by something or other within the psyche. Sure I can nurture
>>you but .. For how long until you turn into a blob of ****? So some
>>begin, to the horror of many, to rediscover - the self. Because the
>>self has a bad name, however, it has to do morph into something else.
>>Something strong. Noble. Arousing. Something that consummates the
>>advancements of these three stages. Something that can rouse people's
>>emotions toward - a common cause, common purpose. Something glorious
>>to stir the emotions off of their swamp and toward something like
>>progress.
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>>Time to introduce - something else. Something that has existence
>>outside the reality of any individual mind. Something that has
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>>that is objective and with which everyone can identify. Something
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>>steps outside of the individual mind and lets the individual minds
>>work together on a synthesis to make it relevant to their lives - and
>>make themselves relevant to it. The process starts with Leo. The only
>>thing that will get the people emotionally stirred enough out of
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>>minds to see the world from a perspective that's not their own. A
>>perspective like, say, the ego of the Leo. An ego so glorious, so
>>imposing or so overbearing that the individual can't help but to
>>identify with it rather than with themselves. The ego of - a
>>civilization. The ego of a society. The ego of a king who has
>>life-or-death power over you. The galvanizing, the spectacular, the
>>stirring, the pompous, the overbearing. Progress. Religion. Conquest
>>of savages. The consummation of every ego. The enlightened solution.
>>That which live people's dreams. The luminous sun that ****nes
>>love-light forever. The common purpose. The method that appeals to
>>every ego. This becomes the method and the logic; this becomes the
>>goal and the avatar. That which takes all emotions of people - their
>>love, their fear, their resentment, their aspirations - and gives
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>>a name, a purpose and an association with a common goal. The method
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>>this; Make the best of everyone. Make everyone happy. Sublimation of
>>emotions to art; to purpose; to spark of creative fire and common
>>identity. Emergence out of common wetness of self-creative phoenix
>>fire. Even while making the Leo a centerless but entirely full-
>>of-self being sitting at the center and radiating its wisdom toward
>>everyone. Leo is methodologist of the ego, the one who steps outside
>>of his ego and reaches out to other people's emotions and places them
>>under his ego. Which becomes the collective identity. The common
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>>On which all other structures of social synthesis rest.
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>>The shortcoming of this method is the same as that of Aries. Leo just
>>wants to expand. This is imbalanced and has to be checked against
>>objective reality. In the same way as Leo consummates egos into a
>>synthesis, Virgo consummates the physical needs. Virgo takes as
>>axiomatic a system of thought - a mode of cognition - a principle -
>>and makes that it its basic mode of discerning reality. The Virgo
>>method is based on cause-and-effect as it is applied to describing
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>>shaping reality. Virgo is a professional who applies - logic,
>>morals,etc-toward seeing the world and representing it as function of
>>its dogmas., The world becomes seen as a function its ability to fit
>>into its method. When something deviates from the method, it
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>>is unreal. When someone does not abide by the method, he obviously is
>>irresponsible and insane. This pseudo-realism of Virgo becomes
>>self-reinforcing and keeps everyone running in self-fulfilling
>>patterns. This ensures its demise as cornerstone of supposed realism
>>and supposed rationalitythat ignores the mind's role in shaping
>>reality and ignores any other possibilities that people can manifest
>>if they begin to apply themselves toward shaping the world, not into
>>ever more rigid permutations of what it is,but more into how it
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>>be. Enter Libra. The idealist. The dreamweaver. The artist of the
>>spirit.
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>>Libra is the objective analyst. Libra integrates minds. Libra sees
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>>world in terms of objective synthesis of components with eye of
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>>the best of all. Unlike gemini, Libra does not stick to one
>>intellectual code but rather chooses among intellectual codes in
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>>to build a best system of applied intelligence in any particular
>>situation. Libra seeks to consummate; to refine; to weave toward
>>quality; a dialectic that accepts as axiomatic all that is given and
>>by carefully balancing it against its opposite creating a
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>>of both; a projection of an ideal; an inculcation of an ideal of how
>>life should be. Libra integrates through compassion and intellect and
>>then puts out a balanced and delicate synthesis. Libra projects an
>>ideal of how life should be, on the basis of intelligent analysis of
>>all components - analysis whose purpose is to make the best of
>>everything. The Libra method of cognition that is the dialectic is a
>>natural evolution from Virgo's cause-and-effect logic; a method whose
>>purpose is to consummate and to complete; not to produce ever more
>>similar forms of the same matter but to rise toward quality. The
>>shortcoming of this method is that it is utterly uninsightful and
>>consummates with its structures many things that have no right to
>>being woven into quality. There is hypocrisy inherent in such a
>>method. Enter Scorpio.
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>>Scorpio is psychological insight. Scorpio looks at things as they
>>affect its psyche - checks things at their premises. Its method is
>>this: Checking the cognitive method for its emotional and
>>psychological truthfulness. Checking for emotional truthfulness at
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>>root. This is the natural evolution after Libra, whose dialectical
>>method consummates all that stands underneath it through an act of
>>synthesis - but which does not by itself have the capacity for
>>understanding whether or not the thing on which they are building has
>>any actual validity in human world. The Scorpio is a free radical
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>>swims in the medium and clears it of dendritis; that subverts the
>>social dialectic that is the civilization, or clears it of poison,
>>depending upon its purpose and intent. The Scorpio is a filter, a
>>sieve, a check of how things human affect - human psyche. The Scorpio
>>checks everything against this psychic reality. The difference
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>>one person's psychic reality and the next one, and Scorpio's absolute
>>rootedness in theirs, creates a constant battling of psyches as to
>>which reality is most valid. Time for the next level up. A mode of
>>cognition that transcends the self altogether and places the mind in
>>something other than the self.
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>>The systematizers form the next level of removal from self; a
>>cognition that has no reliance on the self whatsoever and identifies
>>instead with a context. A civilization. A philosophy. A system. A
>>global mind. The universe. Self-interest does not play the part in
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>>cognitive processes of this level at all. Far rather, self-interest
>>expresses itself sideways: in systems that serve one's purposes, in
>>systems that serve oneself, in systems that take the contents of
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>>own psyche and project them upon the universe, thereupon to force the
>>entirety of the civilization to live by a mindset suitable to -
>>oneself.
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>>Sagittarius is the contextual synthesis in terms of the ego.
>>Sagitarrius is the expressed dogma - the expressed purpose - the
>>expressed tradition. Sagittarius is the stated objectives of the
>>civilization. A wisdom - known to be wisdom because it makes people
>>feel smug; because it works at the ego level and makes ego feel wise
>>and open. A wisdom that consummates what made everyone's egos happy
>>through time and tradition and on the basis of this ego feeling - on
>>the basis of ability to strengthen or understand the ego - creates -
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>>philosophy. A guiding standard. A wisdom. A context. A tradition from
>>which all ego- motivated individuals can draw inspiration, coming
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>>others who have ever preceded them. Sagittarian method of cognition
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>>that of placing everything through the lens of a philosophy - seeing
>>everything in the context - that is the stated reality of the
>>civilization. Sagittarius identifies with the context and hopes to
>>complete it. This makes him wise. For a while. Until he begins to
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>>the scrutiny of objective reality.
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>>Capricorn is contextual syntesis applied to physical or social
>>reality. Capricorn is the engineer; the architect; the social
>>synthesizer; the weaver of social context. Capricorn sees the context
>>of - the civilization. The system. With the eye on lasting stability
>>and perpetuation. With an eye on providing for material and social
>>fulfilment. With an eye on developing a lasting place to live and a
>>lasting civlization.To a Capricorn everything has its proper place,
>>and everything is measured by standard of relation to its structural
>>context. Everything is measured by its lasting, survival-providing,
>>quality. Everything is measured by usefulness to - the civilization.
>>The goal is to become the person who gets to decide what and who is
>>useful and where the civilization is going. To become the system. TO
>>become the mastermind and the architect. To structure the
>>civilization. To make it real. To make it last. To leave a lasting
>>blueprint. To let his character, his mind and his perception go the
>>greatest lengths to shaping social reality. To be an engineer of the
>>context and give everyone a proper place. Then keep them there and
>>bash them if they dare to deviate. Which makes mind unhappy. And the
>>Individual.
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>>Aquarius is contextual synthesis of the mind. Aquarius incor****ates
>>all the knowledge that has been passed down through the civilization
>>into a system of learning; a cognitive blueprint; an academia.
>>Aquarius represents the world in terms of its system of learning and
>>sees everything as an extrapolation upon this system of learning. As
>>such Aquarius is free - free to fly; free to see; free by virtue of
>>being associated entirely with an objective context that sees the
>>world from a bird's eye view. Free to invent. Free to entertain
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>>and set right injustices. Free and completely detached from the self.
>>Aquarius identifies with the intellectual system and presents the
>>world on its basis. As such it becomes the next innovation. The next
>>imprint. That which has the quiet arrogance of something that has
>>consummated a context and is able to produce - the next futuristic
>>improvement. Each aquarius feels this entitlement. Each aquarius,
>>dissociated from human emotions. They fight each other. They argue.
>>They fly into each other. They run into a reality check. Of what is
>>true. Of what is true in absolute sense. Of what transcends the mind
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>>of what the mind inhabits and tries to approximate. Of the universe.
>>And this is the end of the road.
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>>Pisces is context. Simply context. The medium in which the minds
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>>The Piscean mind identifies with the emotional-psychic context of a
>>civilization. The Pisces is simply psychic - simply empathic - and
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>>no self of its own. It identifies with - the world. Pisces
>>accomplished is mind that is one with the universe. The meditating
>>mind. The mind of God. This represents a complete evolution out of
>>self and an end of the cycle. At which point it's time to be back to
>>some good old-fa****oned stupid Arian selfishness as subconsciously
>>informed by the innovations of this spiral.
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>>Ilya Shambat
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