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Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation

by "Joe" <xxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 10, 2005 at 06:22 PM

My comments are inline.

/Joe

"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:8kkkf1pc6pv29abfersa4a4odg8d0ifivm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On 10 Aug 2005 11:07:51 -0700, "The Daily Excerpt" <bzbz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>[QUOTE] Tammet is calculating 377 multiplied by 795. Actually, he isn't
>>"calculating": there is nothing conscious about what he is doing. He
>>arrives at the answer instantly. Since his epileptic fit, he has been
>>able to see numbers as shapes, colours and textures. The number two,
>>for instance, is a motion, and five is a clap of thunder. "When I
>>multiply numbers together, I see two shapes. The image starts to change
>>and evolve, and a third shape emerges. That's the answer. It's mental
>>imagery. It's like maths without having to think."
>>
>>.... Last year Tammet broke the European record for recalling pi, the
>>mathematical constant, to the furthest decimal point. He found it easy,
>>he says, because he didn't even have to "think". To him, pi isn't an
>>abstract set of digits; it's a visual story, a film projected in front
>>of his eyes. He learnt the number forwards and backwards and, last
>>year, spent five hours recalling it in front of an adjudicator. He
>>wanted to prove a point. "I memorised pi to 22,514 decimal places, and
>>I am technically disabled. I just wanted to show people that disability
>>needn't get in the way."
>>
>>FROM: http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1409903,00.html
>>
> 'Consciousness' is a quale on brain activity,
> similar to redness is a quale on certain sensory
> input. Thus 'consciousness' is as 'real' as redness.
> Both are functional delusions.

I assume that you mean that certain patterns of brain activity give rise
to 
what most of us perceive as consciousness, just as certain patterns of 
sensory input give rise to what most of us perceive as redness. If we 
dismiss such concepts as delusional, I don't see how we can avoid
dismissing 
all perception - and therefore the ideas which we derive thereby - as 
delusion. Aside from being able to tell ourselves, "There! Now we
understand 
everything", I don't see what it gets us.

Besides, functionally speaking, it seems to me would be unwise to allow 
someone who is not acquainted with both concepts behind the wheel of an 
automobile. .
>
> On savant autism : perhaps 'being human' is a preferred(normal)
> form of autism. It takes genius information transformation and
> confabulation to produce and project a 'personified self'.
> --
> Best,
> Frederick Martin McNeill
> Poway, California, United States of America
> mmcneill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.fuzzysys.com
> http://members.cox.net/fmmcneill/
> *************************
> Phrase of the week :
> "Your neocortex is reading this book."
> -"On Intelligence"-Jeff Hawkins (1957-)
> :-))))Snort!)
> *************************
 




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One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"The Daily Excerpt&q  2005-08-10 11:07:51 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Sir Frederick"  2005-08-10 12:27:03 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Joe" <xxx@[  2005-08-10 18:22:46 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Brian Fletcher"  2005-08-10 22:57:58 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Sir Frederick"  2005-08-10 16:04:37 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Joe" <xxx@[  2005-08-11 20:03:53 

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