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Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation

by "Brian Fletcher" <brianf8@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 10, 2005 at 10:57 PM

"Joe" <xxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> My comments are inline.
>
> /Joe

As are mine..

Brian
>
> "Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:8kkkf1pc6pv29abfersa4a4odg8d0ifivm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On 10 Aug 2005 11:07:51 -0700, "The Daily Excerpt" <bzbz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>[QUOTE] Tammet is calculating 377 multiplied by 795. Actually, he isn't
>>>"calculating": there is nothing conscious about what he is doing. He
>>>arrives at the answer instantly. Since his epileptic fit, he has been
>>>able to see numbers as shapes, colours and textures. The number two,
>>>for instance, is a motion, and five is a clap of thunder. "When I
>>>multiply numbers together, I see two shapes. The image starts to change
>>>and evolve, and a third shape emerges. That's the answer. It's mental
>>>imagery. It's like maths without having to think."
>>>
>>>.... Last year Tammet broke the European record for recalling pi, the
>>>mathematical constant, to the furthest decimal point. He found it easy,
>>>he says, because he didn't even have to "think". To him, pi isn't an
>>>abstract set of digits; it's a visual story, a film projected in front
>>>of his eyes. He learnt the number forwards and backwards and, last
>>>year, spent five hours recalling it in front of an adjudicator. He
>>>wanted to prove a point. "I memorised pi to 22,514 decimal places, and
>>>I am technically disabled. I just wanted to show people that disability
>>>needn't get in the way."
>>>
>>>FROM: http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1409903,00.html
>>>
>> 'Consciousness' is a quale on brain activity,
>> similar to redness is a quale on certain sensory
>> input. Thus 'consciousness' is as 'real' as redness.
>> Both are functional delusions.
>
> I assume that you mean that certain patterns of brain activity give rise

> to what most of us perceive as consciousness, just as certain patterns
of 
> sensory input give rise to what most of us perceive as redness.

Not if you consider that the individual's consciousness gives rise to our 
brains activity.

>If we dismiss such concepts as delusional, I don't see how we can avoid 
>dismissing all perception - and therefore the ideas which we derive 
>thereby - as delusion. Aside from being able to tell ourselves, "There!
Now 
>we understand everything", I don't see what it gets us.

Not so much delusional, more 'accomodational'. The very perception of 
redness is transient which doesn't mean I will no longer recognise the 
significance of red traffic light.


>
> Besides, functionally speaking, it seems to me would be unwise to allow 
> someone who is not acquainted with both concepts behind the wheel of an 
> automobile. .

It will not stop those that need the accident experience, no more than it 
will create that scenario for those that do.

Brian
I believed until the belief gene was discovered.

>>
>> On savant autism : perhaps 'being human' is a preferred(normal)
>> form of autism. It takes genius information transformation and
>> confabulation to produce and project a 'personified self'.
>> --
>> Best,
>> Frederick Martin McNeill
>> Poway, California, United States of America
>> mmcneill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.fuzzysys.com
>> http://members.cox.net/fmmcneill/
>> *************************
>> Phrase of the week :
>> "Your neocortex is reading this book."
>> -"On Intelligence"-Jeff Hawkins (1957-)
>> :-))))Snort!)
>> *************************
>
>
 




 6 Posts in Topic:
One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"The Daily Excerpt&q  2005-08-10 11:07:51 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Sir Frederick"  2005-08-10 12:27:03 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Joe" <xxx@[  2005-08-10 18:22:46 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Brian Fletcher"  2005-08-10 22:57:58 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Sir Frederick"  2005-08-10 16:04:37 
Re: One brain's unorthodox mental representation of computation
"Joe" <xxx@[  2005-08-11 20:03:53 

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