Markus E L wrote:
> :-) Well, yes, this is what I hoped to hear. Unfortunately there is
> not much information about this online. I thought (actually knew :-) I
> had been reading about N.C. in connection with IAENG. Of course I knew
> about the machine generated paper. But the 'fake conferences' site
> referenced from scigen is now gone and it is really difficult to find
> (a) any do***entation connecting IAENG with N.C and (b) classifying
> IAENG conferences as "vanity" (which is putting it much too nice if
> they are what we think).
Collegues of mine had been on the IAENG last year in Hongkong. Well, it
wasn't a fake conference, and they also have a Springer proceedings.
It's just a, uhm, lousy conference. That said, there are better ways
to spend your money if you want to generate some impact.
> I actually had hoped that the scientific community had some way to
> distance themselves publicly from such conferences. Not all people
> "publi****ng" at those conferences know what they are doing: Some, is
> my impression, are just under a tremendous pressure to publish
> anything anywhere and badly advised by their scientific mentors (which
> are often putting on the pressure themselves).
Actually, most institutes can give you advice where to go and which
conferences to avoid. IAENG is IMHO pretty much borderline. I've heard
of worse, but I still wouldn't go.
> Indeed it would help
> all people concerned if fake conferences would be denounced as fake
> publicly. Therefore my request for information, but I could hardly ask
> "Does anybody know where I can find do***entation that those
> conferences are fake" -- that would have been foreclosing (?) the
> anticipated result. :-)
>
>> with no actual value. One of these fake conferences chaired by the
>> infamous Nagib Callaos became well known for accepting a
machine-generated
>> paper a couple of years ago (http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/).
>
> To wrap it up: "Everyone knows" is not enough for effective public
> denouncement. Where can I find more do***entation on the IAENG
> specifically?
I don't know an online resource about fake conferences (this one isn't
really fake, but bad enough to avoid it.) Actually, your mentor should
really know, and once you're in a scientific community, you have your
selection of conferences anyhow.
So long,
Thomas
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