"Andrey Gavrilov" <andr_gavriloov@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
| "Ondra Zizka" <ondra@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
| > Andrey,
| >
| > It is very exciting to see that someone's thoughts led the same way as
| > mine:
| >
| >> Intelligent systems (natural or artificial) have a mechanism that
| >> selects (recognition) and activates the information resources
| >> (neurons, neural ensembles, frames, rules, etc.) that are essential
| >> to the solution of an actual task by the intelligent system, and
| >> that deactivates the resources that are not essential to the
| >> solution of an actual task.
| >
| > I've hesitated to make my "crazy ideas" public, but in the light of
| > your work - could you have look at it? Could it work? (Note that it's
| > just a very rough concept without any simulations done.)
| >
| >
http://ondra.zizka.cz/stranky/programovani/artificial_intelligence/business_society_algorithm.texy
| >
| > Thanks,
| > Ondra Zizka
|
| I think that your thougts cause more questions than answers.
| For example, what is "enough payment to it's composing individuals"? How
to
| control of process of dispersing of individuals?
That's right. I did not try to think out a complete system definition,
only a concept bounds.
I had the same questions when writing it, but left them unanswered with a
"TODO: find a mechanism".
And this TODO could be potentially solved by evolving. Although, my
concept misses the description of what and how should evolve.
| My opinion is following.
| It is good idea to apply some concepts from AI (multi agents, genetic
| algorithms and so on) to social or business systems. And this idea is
not
| enough novel, I think. But as I understood you try to simulate
intelligent
| system employing features of evaluation of social system. I think that
it is
| not appropriate approach, because social systems are not enough stable
and
| not enough smart. We have different examples from history that such
system
| is not learned succesfully and many positive skills are lost without
| usefulness.
I have tried to find some, but didn't find. Could you kindly give me some
references, please?
| And we can not be sure that our current trends in our
| civilization is good or vice versa.
| But intelligent system must be stable and have capability to learn
without
| missing of old knowledge.
| So I recommend you to apply concepts of AI to describe and improve
society
| but not vice versa. Unfoirtunatley our politicians do not pay attention
to
| opinion of scientists.
| This is just my opinion which may be not correct.
|
| Andrey
Not only the concept of society was an inspiration.
The "general purpose" (groups of) neurons in the brain also must
specialize for some task, and then they represent the old knowledge.
Then there must be a mechanism which ensures that their specialization
will not be lost, and more, that they will be found and used to solve new
tasks.
This is probably done by "random" trials of using them to solve it, and
depending on the result of the action, their association to a group
solving the new task is strengthened [or reduced] (e.g. through the
emotions concept).
The way how brain works may not be the only possible solution and we
should not stick to it, but at least we know one working concept.
This may not be the way how brain works, but sound reasonably.
So, this business society model is an attempt to create a principle that
could work on similar principles: allow specialization, reuse specialized
units for new tasks, discard units that do not contribute to the solution
of a task for other use. Maybe I should not have named it "business
society".
By the way, it seems that in special case it can form a neural network and
backpropagation.
I know that any concept I think out is likely to be at the level of 50's
research; I am just a student after all :-) That why I asked for comments
and references to the results of the research already done. Thanks for
them.
Ondra
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