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Re: Help with collocations, please

by Glenn Knickerbocker <NotR@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 4, 2008 at 01:25 AM

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:17 GMT, Django Cat wrote:
>Anyway.  One of the early things we teach is collocation with 'make' and
'do' -
>'do the shopping', 'make the beds' 'do the wa****ng up'.  Is 'make the
bed' a
>cliche?  Or shall we all start doing the beds, instead?

I don't see how this is a matter of collocations and not simply of
meaning.  These two words are difficult for many non-native speakers
because their meanings are rolled up into one verb in so many languages.
Sure, each one has a whole host of idiosyncratic uses, of which "make the
bed" might be one, but "do the any-verb-ing" isn't a specific
collocation, it's an application of the most basic and general meaning of
"do."  Even the difference between "make the bed" and "do the dishes"
seems better to me to explain in terms of meaning than specific uses.
I'd save the list of collocations for things like doing a performance but
making an appearance.

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 33 Posts in Topic:
Help with collocations, please
"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-02 10:22:05 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Jeffrey Turner <jturne  2008-06-02 07:48:20 
Re: Help with collocations, please
"Don Phillipson"  2008-06-02 08:16:27 
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"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-03 09:21:17 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Fred Springer <fred.sp  2008-06-03 14:44:15 
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"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-03 18:55:16 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Glenn Knickerbocker <N  2008-06-04 01:25:36 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Nick Spalding <spaldin  2008-06-04 09:19:07 
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"CDB" <belle  2008-06-04 10:30:38 
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"howdouno@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-04 01:26:44 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Woody Wordpecker <exw6  2008-06-02 05:37:59 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Bob Cunningham <exw6sx  2008-06-02 05:49:34 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Tom P <tombnbnb@[EMAIL  2008-06-02 18:03:16 
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Woody Wordpecker <exw6  2008-06-02 10:56:18 
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_u  2008-06-02 13:28:50 
Re: Help with collocations, please
LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-02 16:48:53 
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_u  2008-06-02 13:45:06 
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"Lorna May" <  2008-06-07 04:49:54 
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"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-07 09:11:32 
Re: Help with collocations, please
"Mike Lyle" <  2008-06-07 15:00:07 
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"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-07 16:18:09 
Re: Help with collocations, please
TsuiDF <stephanie.mitc  2008-06-02 13:45:16 
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"jerry_friedman@[EMA  2008-06-02 15:14:17 
Re: Help with collocations, please
"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-03 09:25:10 
Re: Help with collocations, please
"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-04 06:28:48 
Re: Help with collocations, please
aspasia   2008-06-04 01:28:47 
Re: Help with collocations, please
John O'Flaherty <quias  2008-06-04 08:32:05 
Re: Help with collocations, please
"Django Cat" &l  2008-06-04 13:51:21 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Nasti J <njgillmom@[EM  2008-06-02 11:00:51 
Re: Help with collocations, please
R H Draney <dadoctah@[  2008-06-02 11:04:41 
Re: Help with collocations, please
aspasia   2008-06-02 11:41:13 
Re: Help with collocations, please
"jerry_friedman@[EMA  2008-06-02 14:37:25 
Re: Help with collocations, please
Adam Funk <a24061@[EMA  2008-06-03 20:55:36 

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