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Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)

by "michalchik@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <michalchik@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 3, 2008 at 11:23 PM

On May 3, 6:32=C2=A0pm, Mensanator <mensana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 3, 7:57=EF=BF=BDpm, "michalc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <michalc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > I tutor a lot of algebra and as you know there are three basic types
> > of problems that algebra students are given. The ones that say
> > "Solve", "Factor" and the ones that say "Simplify".
>
> > Solve you check by plugging the answers back in.
>
> > Factor you check by multiplying things back together.
>
> > Simplify... Well neither my students nor I were ever taught a reliable
> > and simple check for simplified expressions. Example "Simplify (x^2
> > -1) / (x+1)" this becomes "x-1".
>
> > The best check I have thought of I call the -3 check. You plug in the
> > number -3 into the unsimplfied expression and the simplified
> > expression and see if you get the same answer. This technique is not
> > perfect. Sometime you will get the same answer even if the expressions
> > are not equivalent such as -3x and x^2 and the test blows up for
> > expressions like 1/(x+3). Still these problems come up seldomly.
>
> > -3 is the smallest and easiest to use number that rarely gives a false
> > check.
>
> > 0 fails in multiplication x=3D2x
> > 1 fails in exponentiation x=3Dx^2
> > 2 has some weird properties x+x =3D x*x =3D x^x
> > 3 has a problem with abs(x) =3D x and some other minor ones
>
> > -3 distinguishes all the above situations and is easier to computer
> > than larger numbers.
>
> > So, I want to get your opinion on this test and ask if you can think
> > of anything better.
>
> How hard is it to check 0,1,2,3 & -3?
>

Actually pretty hard when they have 25 problems to complete in 50
minutes. Most students only have at most 25% of total test time left
to check problems and then correct them.

> > I encourage my students to review their
> > calculations but many times they will make the same mistake more than
> > once if they don't know that their answer is wrong. Remember, in
> > general I am teaching this to 8th and 9th graders. They are not very
> > sophisticated or abtract thinkers yet and thier ability to keep track
> > of multiple things is quite limited.
>
> That's why they invented paper & pencil. Put your
> calculator aside and try it sometime.- Hide quoted text -
>

These kids are all working on paper, but approaching problems on paper
in an organized fa****on is a skill that takes years to develope and
changes with each new type of problem it is not trivial.

> - Show quoted text -

I think you are out of touch with what it is like to be a kid trying
to learn new math concepts.
 




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Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 17:57:33 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Mensanator <mensanator  2008-05-03 18:32:10 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 23:23:45 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Arturo Magidin <magidi  2008-05-03 23:42:37 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Rupert Swarbrick <rswa  2008-05-04 12:32:57 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 00:23:14 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Rupert Swarbrick <rswa  2008-05-04 12:37:58 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
magidin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-04 18:14:51 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Mensanator <mensanator  2008-05-04 07:57:54 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-05-04 13:58:49 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 21:24:06 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
magidin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-05 14:29:23 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 21:34:13 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-05-05 04:53:02 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Bill Dubuque <wgd@[EMA  2008-05-15 01:17:21 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"Dave L. Renfro"  2008-05-05 08:56:34 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Mensanator <mensanator  2008-05-05 10:20:02 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
fflittle@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-05 10:42:52 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Mensanator <mensanator  2008-05-05 11:06:40 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 03:33:17 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
magidin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 13:49:41 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Rupert Swarbrick <rswa  2008-05-06 16:30:09 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 03:47:56 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
"michalchik@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 04:03:22 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-05-15 05:39:05 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Fatal <fatal@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 15:09:25 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Bill Dubuque <wgd@[EMA  2008-05-15 13:44:58 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-05-15 10:46:16 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Bill Dubuque <wgd@[EMA  2008-05-15 14:49:32 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
lwalke3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 13:58:05 
Re: Checking simplified algebraic expressions (the -3 test)
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-05-16 05:23:22 

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