Re: Vouchers lost in court, deserve no new chance

Middle Class Warrior wrote:
malcolmkirkpatrick wrote:
buckeye/jalison wrote:
(jalison): "Vouchers lost in court, deserve no new chance
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/opinion/epaper/2008/03/2...
Palm Beach Post Editorial
(Discussion deleted...)
=2E.."These amendments relate neither to taxes nor the budget. They
relate to  policy issues that didn't stand up in court, and seek to
get around the court ruling. They are deceptive, a waste of time and
none of the commission's business."

(MK): "The Supreme Curt of Florida (SCOFLA) did not rule on Church/
State  grounds. The Florida Constitution requires the State (through
local schooldistricts) to maintain a uniform system of pubic schools.
Somehow the Court interpreted this to mean that Florida's taxpayers
may sup****t only schools operated by the NEA/AFT/AFSCME cartel. That
legal reasoning is bogus, but immunized them from reversal by the
Federal courts, which would have happened had they ruled on US
Constitutional 'establishment' grounds. So long as sup****t flows at
the direction of parents, to schools whose eligibility is determined
by religiously neutral criteria, there is no Church/State violation.

See Federal Appelate Court Judge Michael McConnell's article on the
constitutionality ofvouchersin the Brookings =A0institution study
___Vouchers and the Provision of Public Services__."

(MCW): "The court ruled correctly. This is Florida constitutional
issue.  Republicans and churches have for years trying to get the
states pay for private schools tuition or textbooks with little
effect. I remember such an effort in Nebraska 40 years ago that
failed. Florida schools are in dire straights and inferior to schools
in the Mid-West and North East. They are underfunded and that is
unlikely to change because of the senior population in the state. I
would not  recommend that a young family move here. In fact, many new
families have been moving out. Many private schools will not just
acceptvouchersto put you kid in
them. Most want additional funds or family hours in the school. In
addition, the politicians promised the Florida Lottery would fix
education, but they cut the general revenue funding for schools for
every lottery dollar received. In the end the schools gained nothing.

We disagree about "correct". Florida schools are not "uniform" in
funding or performance.

We disagree that Florida taxpayers spend insufficient resources on
K-12 schools.  The relation between resources and performance is very
weak. It does not take $8000 per student year for 12 years to teach a
normal child to read and compute. Much vocational training occurs more
effectively on the job. State (government, generally) Civics
instruction is a threat to democracy, just as State operation of news
media would be (is, in totalitarian countries).

What we in the US call "the public school system" (i.e., a policy
which restricts each parent's options for the use of the taxpayers'
K-12 education subsidy to schools operated by government employees)
originated in anti-Catholic bigotry and survives on dedicated lobbying
by current recipients of the $500 billion per year revenue
stream.

"Correct"? The Legislature and voters didn't thing so...

http://jaypgreene.com/
"Florida just passed an expansion of its tax-credit funded scholar****p
program (read: vouchers).  You can see the bill here.  So much for
vouchers being politically dead."

Take care. Homeschool if you can.