buckeye <buckeyeelo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>:|Rhymecon has noted the condemnation of the RRR by McCain. Access
>:|http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shaun-jacob-halper/mccains-reverends-right-h_b_100007.html
>:| to see how he is linked with them in 2008. For those who are for
>:|Separation of Church and State he is not good.
>:|
>:|David Fisher
>:|
>:| Shaun Jacob Halper (Includes U tube video)
>:|McCain's Reverends Right: His Faustian Bargain with Radical
Christianity
>:|http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shaun-jacob-halper/mccains-reverends-right-h_b_100007.html
>:|
>:|[excerpt]
>:|
>:|"So I can understand, I can understand why people are upset about this.
I
>:|can understand why Americans when viewing these kind of comments, are
angry
>:|and upset." -John McCain on the interminable Jeremiah Wright
controversy
>:|(April 27, 2008)
>:|
>:|John McCain, the great empathizer, is running low on empathy. Quick to
>:|condemn the remarks of Obama's former pastor on behalf of American
umbrage,
>:|McCain is reticent about his own knee-deep quagmire of offensive
>:|associational guilt. While Obama has bitterly terminated his unpopular
>:|alliance, John McCain continues to cling indefatigably to his.
>:|
>:|All is quiet on the radical Christian front.
>:|
>:|McCain has made a deal with the devil-- actually, three devils.
Desperate
>:|to unify what is left of his ideological shamble of a Republican Party,
>:|McCain has allied with three of its most bigoted and hateful
"spiritual"
>:|personalities: John Hagee, Rod Parsley, and (before his death) Jerry
>:|Falwell.
>:|
>:|Though Americans take sincere offense at the vile statements of his
>:|powerful radical Christian allies, John McCain refuses to renounce them
or
>:|disassociate himself from these hateful hucksters of hypocrisy.
>:|
>:|Many, includingFrank Rich today, have already noted that the mainstream
>:|media has effectively ignored this most unholy of political alliances.
As a
>:|result, it is quite likely that many Americans have yet to hear any of
>:|these incendiary statements. The following is a 10 minute synthesis of
the
>:|greatest scatological hits of McCain's fundamentalist friends (see
YouTube
>:|for myriad full-length footage):
>:|[end excerpt ]
>:|
From: RhymeCon <bob4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups:
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Subject: Re: Egregious errors in civic textbook
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 05:39:43 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
RhymeCon wrote:
This may be unethical but I'm posting here a reply to Buckeye's thread
("Rhymecon/ McCain") of about May 5 which is addressed specifically to
me but I can't use that thread because I've apparently used up my
quota of 5 groups.
Well, I for one am opposed to the Separation of Church and State
because it's misleading, confusing, and often interpreted as saying
the exact opposite of what the First Amendment says. The First
Amendment (which, unlike the Sep. of C. & S. is in the U.S.
Constitution) prohibits government from influencing religion but
extends freedom of speech and the press to religion as well as every
other group you can think of. Many people, including the late Assoc.
Justice Hugo Black are of the opinion that churches must not discuss
government. In his infamous Everson opinion of 1947 Hugo said <http://
www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/everson.html> that
"Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly,
participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups
and vice versa". Well, that oddly chosen term "vice versa" means that
Churches can't participate in the affairs of government which is the
duty of all Americans, and can't even say "Don't forget to vote
Tuesday" or in a past era "Outlaw slavery" or "Don't send American
citizens to prison for years just because their parents were Japanese"
or in the present era "Outlaw abortion".
That last example, BTW, illustrates the stupidity of the Christian
Right for their past efforts in convincing the nation that abortion is
a religious issue in the first place. I don't know that anyone has
even found it in the Bible, and some of the most outspoken anti-
abortionists have been atheists! And people of every state were
opposed to Roe v. Wade until the fundamentalists asserted over and
over again that it's impossible to be anti-abortion unless you're a
born-again Christian, and everyone naturally assumed that those
fundies care more about proselyting than they do about fighting
abortion.
And interestingly the founding manifest of the Americans United for
Separation of Church and State set one of its primary goals to
OVERTURN that 1947 Everson decision sup****ted by Justice Hugo Black!
Regards, RhymeCon
http://rhymecon.tripod.com/2/
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