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Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance

by buckeye <buckeyeelo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM

s****hawk <s****hawk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>:|
>:|And as a secular entity, the United States has no authority to
>:|interfere in the exercise of any religion, at any time, and in any
>:|place.  That includes the voluntary expressions of religious ideals
>:|and rite in private assemblies, in public meetings, in schools, or
>:|anywhere--even in Congress itself.  The United States government has
>:|no authority, moral or legal, to prohibit prayer anywhere.

The above isn't even close to being true.  
Carte Blanc free exercise of religion has never existed in any of the
Colonies nor in any of the states  of this country.

In various colonies people were banned from the colony,  jailed or worse
for attempting to exercise their religion if that religion was different
from the established religion in that colony

The original state constitutions  granted only a limited form of free
exercise of religion. 

If such broke laws or was disruptive  of the general good it was not
permitted.

The term prohibit does allow for restricting  or limiting.  A simple
example   is a parent can and many do  limit or restrict the programs
their
kids watch on TV and the number of hours they can watch tv  while not
prohibiting watching tv  

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You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning.  Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic."  New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992) 
.. . . 
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote 

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

***************************************************************** 
       THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE: 
    SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE 
	
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-08 04:02:40 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 08:06:08 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 12:07:58 
Re: US Government Sponsored Prayers and The Pledge of Allegiance
buckeye <buckeyeelo@[E  2008-05-10 12:09:34 

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