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Re: Despite high school algebra focus, more students need remedial college math

by Chookie <ehrebeniuk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 08:55 PM

In article 
<88b91724-300b-4248-8208-f4798a3526cb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> The article does fail to mention one thing that I believe is
> applicable.
> Success in school depends not only upon ability, (which is clearly
> lacking
> in a large ****tion of the population),  but also upon MOTIVATION.  Too
> many
> people simply don't VALUE education.  And these people have no chance
> of succeeding.  An interesting question is whether lack of motivation
> is a result
> of lack of ability.  How strong is the correlation between the two?
> I suspect that
> it is very strong, but lack data.  Have any stuidies been done?  I
> would enjoy
> seeing some discussion about this within this NG.

Well, in some ways it's obvious.  I'm hopeless at s****t, so I don't value 
s****t any more (despite family and social values to the contrary).  If I
found 
school extremely difficult OR unpleasant, I wouldn't value it either (cf
Lee 
on public schools...).  OTOH yes, motivation is im****tant; there are
plenty of 
brilliant-but-feckless people in the world who have not "fulfilled their 
potential" (if that phrase has any real meaning) and plenty of average 
sloggers who have achieved a great deal through sheer persistence.

Teaching MUST have a role here, though.  In the gifted community, I read
about 
students who treat education with contempt because their experience of it
has 
lacked any challenge.  It is, of course, also counterproductive to have a 
student completely out of his depth.  As I see it, part of the role of the

teacher is to give each student sufficient challenge in what they learn to

keep them interested and moving ahead.

-- 
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia 
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

http://chookiesbackyard.blogspot.com/
 




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Re: Despite high school algebra focus, more students need remedi
Pubkeybreaker <pubkeyb  2008-05-13 07:37:31 
Re: Despite high school algebra focus, more students need remedi
kevles@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-13 15:48:31 
Re: Despite high school algebra focus, more students need remedi
hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 17:27:32 
Re: Despite high school algebra focus, more students need remedi
Chookie <ehrebeniuk@[E  2008-05-14 20:55:59 

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